Friday, November 21, 2025

Palisades Fire - new report released

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BkMCqqYYeIYZu-EIe2X-K52bLrX5kPs3/view?usp=sharing

we just did a 10 minute check of the document

18 minutes to get first unit onscene - OMG

15 minutes to get LA County FD dispatched - OMG

15 minutes to get the radio plan / comm plan figured out - OMG

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this other document does not jive with the previous document -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xna6okyL59bk3m6oHphZrN-RWWxOtnBIL0R5EpaZ__4/edit?usp=sharing

this document says that the LAPD after action report says the fire
started at 1023 - also says that neighbors swapped photos of the fire
at 1025 am - also says that county fd and city fd both dispatched
first alarm at the same time

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note - first alarm by city fd and county fd is essentially the same -
5 type 1 structural engines plus 2 helos plus 2 hand crews plus
assorted goodies - this is a "vegetation fire" response - they also
have "grass" fire and "outside" fire and maybe "trash" fire response
levels - maybe 1 engine or 2 engines only - no helos and no handcrews

not sure how the comm plan works in the initial action zone - but
pretty sure that they have a predetermined list of vhf channels that
they use - but its only 16 channels - so if 8 channels were already in
use at the sunset fire - then houston we got a problem - however would
be willing to bet that all of their radios are 'all-band' and can do
trunking and conventional channels - but vhf is their preferred band
for wildfires - since the feds typically dont have TRS radios

(this is pretty much standard info for all of southern california -
except that fires deep in the national forests will be handled solely
by USFS since there are no local or CDF stations around - but this is
rare - probably 90% of all wildland fires in southern california get a
joint response from multi agencies) - this affects the radio channel
usage of course - if just usfs units are going to a fire - then they
can typically get away with just using usfs freqs - since they have
enough fed freqs to handle a couple fo fires in any county

someone who works in the business in southern california would have
better info than me - maybe 10% better lol maybe 20%

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