this is at around 2200 on the tape - then she gets into more stuff for
5 minutes - stating that creativity can be useful against anxiety /
ptsd - then she tells the orange story - which iirc shows that
creativity can definitely relax a person - they prove that right there
at the interview - maybe called guided imagery
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her big bottom line is - creativity can solve the problems of the
world - right hemisphere thinking can solve the problems of the world
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