Thursday, January 23, 2025

la county and la city mega fire procedures

not sure about all of this

los angeles county FD and los angeles city fd have preplanned
procedures for handling very large fires

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LA County FD

pretty sure that the county FD operates like this - first alarm brush
- 5 engines plus 2 hand crews plus 1 dozer plus 2 or 3 copters - 1
engine goes to helispot to feed the helos - 2nd alarm brush - 5
engines plus 2 hand crews plus 2 copters plus 1 dozer - third alarm
brush - 5 engines plus 2 hand crews plus 1 dozer plus remaining helos
- moveups are done for each brush alarm

for more apparatus - we believe that they contact the OES fire
coordinator - and they send strike teams of five engines each - they
might come from in county or out of the county

note - in mutual threat zones / on the borders between 2 FD areas -
both agencies will typically send a full brush response on the first
alarm

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LA City FD

not exactly sure what the LA City response protocol is

first alarm brush - 5 engines and 1 ladder and 3 copters and 1 dozer
and maybe 2 mutual aid hand crews - beyond that they can ask for any
number of additional engines and resources - for the Palisades Fire
they asked for 40 extra engines within 10 minutes of the first
dispatch - the extra units are probably a mixture of LA City units and
suburban FDs and out of county FDs

LAFD probably had approx 120 engines on duty when the Palisades Fire
broke out - so sending 45 engines to the fire is nearly 50% of their
available engines - if they wanted to request 20 mutual aid engines -
maybe they could get 5 from Long Beach and 5 from County FD and 5 from
Verdugo Dispatch and 5 from Torrance area

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there might be 400 fire stations in Los Angeles County - if they had 3
engines at each station - then they could have 1,200 engines available
in the County at maximum staffing - in fact they should probably do
that - with 3 shifts on duty - they could staff all 3 engines - this
would help on brush fires and earthquakes and nuke bomb attacks

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