https://www.woodendcfa.org/community-helps-fund-new-woodend-cfa-tanker/
replaced 25 year old engine - new engine has 4 WD - old Tanker 2 was 2 WD
Tanker 1 spends alot of time out of town on Strike Team calls
Friday, January 31, 2025
FDA approves new pain drug Journavx as opioid alternative
knocks out a protein in the pain pathway to the brain
https://www.wcvb.com/article/vertex-journavx-fda-approval-opioid-alternative/63625701
Vertex began researching the drug in the 2000s, when drug overdoses
were rocketing upward, principally driven by mass prescribing of
opioid painkillers for common ailments like arthritis and back pain.
Prescriptions have fallen sharply in the last decade and the current
wave of the opioid epidemic is mainly due to illicit fentanyl, not
pharmaceutical medicines.
========================
50% of use is obese - 25% have mental illnesses - 50% have guns - just
to review a few statistics
https://www.wcvb.com/article/vertex-journavx-fda-approval-opioid-alternative/63625701
Vertex began researching the drug in the 2000s, when drug overdoses
were rocketing upward, principally driven by mass prescribing of
opioid painkillers for common ailments like arthritis and back pain.
Prescriptions have fallen sharply in the last decade and the current
wave of the opioid epidemic is mainly due to illicit fentanyl, not
pharmaceutical medicines.
========================
50% of use is obese - 25% have mental illnesses - 50% have guns - just
to review a few statistics
video of philly plane crash
https://x.com/BNONews/status/1885482121256382651
was a lear jet ambulance
trigger warning - intense video
was a lear jet ambulance
trigger warning - intense video
trump blames pilot and controller and man on moon
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-says-army-helicopter-in-dc-plane-crash-was-flying-too-high/ar-AA1yc223
what if it was nobodys fault? just a terrible incident in a horribly
complicated world? what if it was caused by a tumbleweed?
what if it was nobodys fault? just a terrible incident in a horribly
complicated world? what if it was caused by a tumbleweed?
drifting a DC10
https://youtube.com/shorts/LhYd30iWDLE?si=T27WKcvdqlwmRuK4
drifting a dc10 airtanker
captain said its not that hard in the comments
drifting a dc10 airtanker
captain said its not that hard in the comments
Re: drone striker IDed in los angeles
https://x.com/FOXLA/status/1885395510925942953
guys name - 56yo
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 1:27 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://x.com/abc7gabe/status/1885393335243964628
>
> the drone that hit the super scooper
guys name - 56yo
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 1:27 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://x.com/abc7gabe/status/1885393335243964628
>
> the drone that hit the super scooper
trumpler still trying to be king
https://x.com/RYP__/status/1885394314098074028
he sure doesnt care about his legacy with his crazy childish heartless
public comments
he sure doesnt care about his legacy with his crazy childish heartless
public comments
white house presser
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1eaJbajwajjGX
not talking about dca crash - talking about tariffs and such - 124 pm et
not talking about dca crash - talking about tariffs and such - 124 pm et
Victim identified in 1991 unsolved homicide in Boston
https://www.wcvb.com/article/victim-identified-in-1991-unsolved-homicide-in-boston/63633276?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot
heavy set hispanic kid - was 21 years old - stabbed and thrown into
boston harbor apparently
heavy set hispanic kid - was 21 years old - stabbed and thrown into
boston harbor apparently
winthrop mass wants to combine its 2 old fire stations
https://winthroptranscript.com/2025/01/30/letter-to-the-editor-158/
where will they park the rescue submarine for logan airport?
where will they park the rescue submarine for logan airport?
socal fires - $30B property losses
https://www.costar.com/article/1384517962/new-analysis-of-la-fires-reveals-property-damages-top-30-billion
homes in palisades cost $4M each
accuweather says total loss might be $250B - ???? - thats totally
different than $30B - suppose you have to add in temporary shelter
costs - and maybe business interruption costs - but it was mostly
homes - ????
homes in palisades cost $4M each
accuweather says total loss might be $250B - ???? - thats totally
different than $30B - suppose you have to add in temporary shelter
costs - and maybe business interruption costs - but it was mostly
homes - ????
philadelphia running 17 bls ambs today
https://x.com/Local22Philly/status/1885361237929644440
union says - be safe out there
why does that sound like a threat?
do they run 2 medics in every ambulance? is that necessary?
what other ambulances are available?
what fire trucks can be downstaffed?
can quints free up 30 fire companies / 120 people?
do the cops still transport 90% of gunshot victims in philly?
weird place
union says - be safe out there
why does that sound like a threat?
do they run 2 medics in every ambulance? is that necessary?
what other ambulances are available?
what fire trucks can be downstaffed?
can quints free up 30 fire companies / 120 people?
do the cops still transport 90% of gunshot victims in philly?
weird place
initial dispatches to dca crash
from open mhz
DCA FD was dispatched at 849 pm on TG103 which is 'Fire 3A Dispatch' -
BC301 + E301 + Foam 310 + Foam 311 + Medic 301 (ambulance) + Fireboat
2 + Safety 322 - on box 30-101 - aircraft crash Runway 33 - assigned
to channel 3 (lima) - this was on the MWAA TRS
Alexandria FD was dispatched at 9 pm on TG 19 which is '2A Dispatch' -
E203 + E204 + E205 + Batt 201 + E209 + Medic 204 (ambulance) + Medic
203 + E201 + M209 + M207 - on box 30-101 mass casualty incident -
assigned to channel 3 charlie - this was on the Alexandria TRS
Arlington County FD was dispatched at 901 PM on TG 27 which is '1A
Dispatch' - M110 + ME110 (medic engine) + M102 + ME105 + M105 + M101 +
E161 (Fort Myers FD) + Bravo Eng 161 (Fort Myers FD) + EMS 101 + M109
- on box 30-105 act of violence - assigned to 3 Charlie - this was on
the Arlington County TRS
at approx 857 PM - on the Arlington County TRS - on TG 183 which is
Fort Myers FD - E161 Bravo told "Fort Myers" that they were responding
to the Pentagon or from the Pentagon - they wanted someone advised
that they were enroute - maybe they wanted the Pentagon PD to open a
gate and allow them to grab the crash truck at the Pentagon - Batt 46
came on the air and talked to Eng 161 B - he told them to report to a
certain location - 14th Street Bridge was mentioned - DC had told them
to send units there - Batt 46 asked E161B if they had been dispatched
by Arlington - E161B said no - Asst Chr 46 had told them to respond
========================
bottom line - initial dispatch for DCA FD (at 849pm) was 1 eng + 1 amb
+ 2 foam trucks + 1 fireboat - plus whatever DCFD sent
iirc DCFD initially just sent 1 fireboat - because DCPD Marine Unit
got the crash phone alert
question - where did the tape of the crash net comms come from?
11 minutes later - at 9 pm - Alexandria FD sent 5 engines (maybe all
ALS engines) + 4 medic units (ALS ambulances)
12 minutes later - at 901pm - Arlington County FD sent 2 medic engines
+ 2 military engines + 5 medic ambulances + 1 EMS supervisor
it is possible that prince georges county and fairfax county also sent
units to the scene early in the ballgame - need to dig deeper into
that - pretty sure that pg county got called for their fireboat -
unknown if any engines and ambulances were sent
we need to dig up that big dcfd dispatch also - they sent approx 5
engines and 2 ladders and 2 heavy rescues and maybe 3 ambulances and 2
fireboats
seems that dcfd fireboat 3 was first onscene at 2053 hr or 2055 hr -
cant read my own nore - one of the airport fireboats arrived 1 minute
later
pretty sure that everyone died nearly instantly or within 1 minute -
so there was not much that anyone could do anyhow
we have many major airports near bodies of water in the usa - boston -
kennedy nyc - laguardia nyc - lax - philadelphia - maybe jacksonville
- minneapolis is near a river iirc - san francisco - maybe all these
arff units need to have rescue submarines on duty 24/7
DCA FD was dispatched at 849 pm on TG103 which is 'Fire 3A Dispatch' -
BC301 + E301 + Foam 310 + Foam 311 + Medic 301 (ambulance) + Fireboat
2 + Safety 322 - on box 30-101 - aircraft crash Runway 33 - assigned
to channel 3 (lima) - this was on the MWAA TRS
Alexandria FD was dispatched at 9 pm on TG 19 which is '2A Dispatch' -
E203 + E204 + E205 + Batt 201 + E209 + Medic 204 (ambulance) + Medic
203 + E201 + M209 + M207 - on box 30-101 mass casualty incident -
assigned to channel 3 charlie - this was on the Alexandria TRS
Arlington County FD was dispatched at 901 PM on TG 27 which is '1A
Dispatch' - M110 + ME110 (medic engine) + M102 + ME105 + M105 + M101 +
E161 (Fort Myers FD) + Bravo Eng 161 (Fort Myers FD) + EMS 101 + M109
- on box 30-105 act of violence - assigned to 3 Charlie - this was on
the Arlington County TRS
at approx 857 PM - on the Arlington County TRS - on TG 183 which is
Fort Myers FD - E161 Bravo told "Fort Myers" that they were responding
to the Pentagon or from the Pentagon - they wanted someone advised
that they were enroute - maybe they wanted the Pentagon PD to open a
gate and allow them to grab the crash truck at the Pentagon - Batt 46
came on the air and talked to Eng 161 B - he told them to report to a
certain location - 14th Street Bridge was mentioned - DC had told them
to send units there - Batt 46 asked E161B if they had been dispatched
by Arlington - E161B said no - Asst Chr 46 had told them to respond
========================
bottom line - initial dispatch for DCA FD (at 849pm) was 1 eng + 1 amb
+ 2 foam trucks + 1 fireboat - plus whatever DCFD sent
iirc DCFD initially just sent 1 fireboat - because DCPD Marine Unit
got the crash phone alert
question - where did the tape of the crash net comms come from?
11 minutes later - at 9 pm - Alexandria FD sent 5 engines (maybe all
ALS engines) + 4 medic units (ALS ambulances)
12 minutes later - at 901pm - Arlington County FD sent 2 medic engines
+ 2 military engines + 5 medic ambulances + 1 EMS supervisor
it is possible that prince georges county and fairfax county also sent
units to the scene early in the ballgame - need to dig deeper into
that - pretty sure that pg county got called for their fireboat -
unknown if any engines and ambulances were sent
we need to dig up that big dcfd dispatch also - they sent approx 5
engines and 2 ladders and 2 heavy rescues and maybe 3 ambulances and 2
fireboats
seems that dcfd fireboat 3 was first onscene at 2053 hr or 2055 hr -
cant read my own nore - one of the airport fireboats arrived 1 minute
later
pretty sure that everyone died nearly instantly or within 1 minute -
so there was not much that anyone could do anyhow
we have many major airports near bodies of water in the usa - boston -
kennedy nyc - laguardia nyc - lax - philadelphia - maybe jacksonville
- minneapolis is near a river iirc - san francisco - maybe all these
arff units need to have rescue submarines on duty 24/7
dca crash - significant comms challenges
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/this-wasn-t-a-standard-black-hawk-helicopter-ret-lt-col-darin-gaub/vi-AA1y6JyM
per former blackhawk pilot on fox news
per former blackhawk pilot on fox news
Your Senses in the Shadows Nighttime Visual Illusions and Spatial Disorientation
https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/JanFeb2025.pdf
FAA Safety Briefing - safety magazine - Jan Feb 2025
keywords - dc plane crash - dca crash
FAA Safety Briefing - safety magazine - Jan Feb 2025
keywords - dc plane crash - dca crash
prince william county VA - 154.325 now kaput
https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/did-prince-william-county-fd-vhf-simulcast-go-dark.484166/
many of the old low band and vhf high band bases have been retired in
northern virginia
many of the old low band and vhf high band bases have been retired in
northern virginia
2 more videos show DCA collision
https://x.com/BNONews/status/1885322915291263487
they never saw each other
dear trumpler - the planes lights were shining forward - we say again
- the planes lights were shining forward - and they were white - like
all the lights on the ground
they never saw each other
dear trumpler - the planes lights were shining forward - we say again
- the planes lights were shining forward - and they were white - like
all the lights on the ground
today in usa - wx
Hazard Monitoring:
• Heavy Rain / Flash Flooding – Illinois, Central Appalachians, and Hawaii
• Freezing Rain – Great Lakes to Mid-Atlantic
• Heavy Snow – California, and Pacific Northwest to the Rockies
from fema daily ops brief
• Heavy Rain / Flash Flooding – Illinois, Central Appalachians, and Hawaii
• Freezing Rain – Great Lakes to Mid-Atlantic
• Heavy Snow – California, and Pacific Northwest to the Rockies
from fema daily ops brief
rye nh got new quick attack
https://www.greenwoodev.com/rye-nh-e-one-ford-f600-quick-attack/
2 man cab - 1250 gpm pump - 450 gallon tank
2 man cab - 1250 gpm pump - 450 gallon tank
they arent out there - aliens that is - country style
New Pentagon report on UFOs includes hundreds of new incidents but no
evidence of aliens
old headline - month ago maybe
evidence of aliens
old headline - month ago maybe
Thursday, January 30, 2025
at least 234,000 people died in the US because they did not get a COVID vaccine.
In 2021-2022, at least 234,000 people died in the US because they did
not get a COVID vaccine. Politicization of vaccines and misinformation
was a major contributor.
numbers from the cdc it appears
https://x.com/luckytran/status/1885162915482812480
not get a COVID vaccine. Politicization of vaccines and misinformation
was a major contributor.
numbers from the cdc it appears
https://x.com/luckytran/status/1885162915482812480
suicide info for usa
https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html
suicide info for usa
trending up since 2000 at least
seems to be steady around 48,000 per year since 2018
4X higher rate for men
suicide info for usa
trending up since 2000 at least
seems to be steady around 48,000 per year since 2018
4X higher rate for men
**EARLY ARRIVAL 3rd ALARM** Heavy FIRE in a 3 Story Mixed Occupancy in Cambridge, MA [Box 42]
they did NOT break all the windows - and it worked - per comments
https://youtu.be/gxfid_scbqs?si=6mMWene--1OuP4Ae
no heavy fire in the video that I saw
I noticed that the wind was in their favor - kept it confined to that corner
https://youtu.be/gxfid_scbqs?si=6mMWene--1OuP4Ae
no heavy fire in the video that I saw
I noticed that the wind was in their favor - kept it confined to that corner
va forestry dozer resting at Spotsylvania county fire station
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8jWPyMwpQ8ivicSy6
sure looks like a virginia state forest fire service dozer - vdf -
virginia department of forestry - virginia division of forestry -
virginia forestry division - virginia state forestry
sure looks like a virginia state forest fire service dozer - vdf -
virginia department of forestry - virginia division of forestry -
virginia forestry division - virginia state forestry
43 animals are vegetarians
https://faunafacts.com/vegetarian-animals-list/
43 animals are vegetarians
includes pandas + giraffes + koalas + elephants
just for fun
43 animals are vegetarians
includes pandas + giraffes + koalas + elephants
just for fun
great info about the DCA crash
https://x.com/AVintageAviator/status/1885114252693745724
circle to land - never heard of it before
crazy - they were trying to have helos fly right under landing jetliners
circle to land - never heard of it before
crazy - they were trying to have helos fly right under landing jetliners
Re: initial dispatches for DCA plane crash
radio traffic from dc side of river
heard via openmhz
at 2049 pm - on Marine Interop 1 TG - somebody told DC Fireboat 2 that
they had received a report via the crash phone that a helo was down at
Regan Airport - that dispatcher might have been the DCPD Marine Patrol
dispatcher or maybe it was USCG
at 2051 - fireboat was saying something on the Main TG for DCFD - they
reported that FB2 and FB3 were enroute to Regan Airport
at 2052 - units were told to operate on Airport Channel 3 Lima
2053 - mention of a water rescue assignment - request for PG Co
fireboat and Alexandria FB 301
2055 - on DCFD Dispatch channel - multi units dispatched - sounded
like E7 E13 E18 Tr10 Tr7 Sqd3 Sqd1 HM23Foam 1 TCU Med Amb Bus 1 and 2
etc
2055 - DC Mike 1 underway - maybe dc pd police boat
2055 - DCFD E7 calls FB1 on DCFD Main Channel
you can see that it took 6 minutes for DCFD to get their main response
out the door
it seems that an alert 3 at DCA airport is pretty lame - just the
airport fd and pd units respond - and anyone else they think of asking
for - like random fireboats - maybe 1 fire truck comes from Dulles
Airport also
an Alert 2 at Logan Airport in Boston seems to get more of a response
than an Alert 3 at Regan - an Alert 3 is an actual crash - an alert 2
is a possible crash
Alert 2 at Logan gets all airport fire trucks plus 1 boston eng and 1
boston lad and 1 boston amb and 1 boston ems supervisor plus maybe 1
boston fd boat plus maybe uscg or boston pd boat
Alert 3 at Logan probably also gets 5 engines from boston and 2
ladders and 1 or 2 rescue trucks - maybe even a task force of heavy
rescue trucks
one thing that dampened down the Regan airport response was people
saying "a helicopter crash' - it was not just a helicopter crash by
any stretch of the imagination - but minimalization was running full
bore
heard via openmhz
at 2049 pm - on Marine Interop 1 TG - somebody told DC Fireboat 2 that
they had received a report via the crash phone that a helo was down at
Regan Airport - that dispatcher might have been the DCPD Marine Patrol
dispatcher or maybe it was USCG
at 2051 - fireboat was saying something on the Main TG for DCFD - they
reported that FB2 and FB3 were enroute to Regan Airport
at 2052 - units were told to operate on Airport Channel 3 Lima
2053 - mention of a water rescue assignment - request for PG Co
fireboat and Alexandria FB 301
2055 - on DCFD Dispatch channel - multi units dispatched - sounded
like E7 E13 E18 Tr10 Tr7 Sqd3 Sqd1 HM23Foam 1 TCU Med Amb Bus 1 and 2
etc
2055 - DC Mike 1 underway - maybe dc pd police boat
2055 - DCFD E7 calls FB1 on DCFD Main Channel
you can see that it took 6 minutes for DCFD to get their main response
out the door
it seems that an alert 3 at DCA airport is pretty lame - just the
airport fd and pd units respond - and anyone else they think of asking
for - like random fireboats - maybe 1 fire truck comes from Dulles
Airport also
an Alert 2 at Logan Airport in Boston seems to get more of a response
than an Alert 3 at Regan - an Alert 3 is an actual crash - an alert 2
is a possible crash
Alert 2 at Logan gets all airport fire trucks plus 1 boston eng and 1
boston lad and 1 boston amb and 1 boston ems supervisor plus maybe 1
boston fd boat plus maybe uscg or boston pd boat
Alert 3 at Logan probably also gets 5 engines from boston and 2
ladders and 1 or 2 rescue trucks - maybe even a task force of heavy
rescue trucks
one thing that dampened down the Regan airport response was people
saying "a helicopter crash' - it was not just a helicopter crash by
any stretch of the imagination - but minimalization was running full
bore
initial dispatches for DCA plane crash
listening to various channels via openmhz
2049 PM - regan airport fd sent to crash on an Alert 3
alexandria fireboat selfdispatched after receiving the call from DC M1
which might be DCPD Marine 1
2052 - Foam 310 is at end of runway - cannot see anything - will put
boat in water
2052 - airport fd bat chief request fairfax and pg co fireboats
2057 PM - DCFD Fireboat 3 at scene (on airport 3M channel)
2058 PM - airport fireboat 378 at scene
(the Regan Airport PD dispatcher was notified of the incident via the
"Crash Net" - she stated this on the radio - we did not hear the crash
net radio traffic - perhaps it is not broadcast via radio or maybe it
is encrypted)
Airport Fire BC orders Mass Casualty Alarms - at 9 PM both Alexandria
FD and Arlington County FD dispatch multi fire engines and ambulances
to the airport
note to self - pretty sure that the initial dispatch for the regan
airport fd was heard on TG3A on the wmaa feed - then enroute and
onscene comms were on 3L and 3M - the Arlington MCI Alarm was also
heard on TG 3A - maybe that was redundant actually - a function of the
CAD to CAD link perhaps - note sure about this - but anyhow - initial
dispatch at 2049 hours with big upgrade at 2100 hours
DCFD also had a full response - will need to check the times
technically speaking - per google maps - all of the potomoc river is
in washington dc - however dcfd has no units stationed on the west
side of the potomoc river - so its a legal distinction but not a real
operational distinction - technically speaking if the aircraft landed
in the river in DC - then DC should be the IC and run the show - but
the airport can get there as quick as DCFD and the airport might
actually have more boats than DC
unnown what assets the USCG has in the area - would be surprised if
they can get more than 2 thirty foot boats to the scene in under 30
minutes
2049 PM - regan airport fd sent to crash on an Alert 3
alexandria fireboat selfdispatched after receiving the call from DC M1
which might be DCPD Marine 1
2052 - Foam 310 is at end of runway - cannot see anything - will put
boat in water
2052 - airport fd bat chief request fairfax and pg co fireboats
2057 PM - DCFD Fireboat 3 at scene (on airport 3M channel)
2058 PM - airport fireboat 378 at scene
(the Regan Airport PD dispatcher was notified of the incident via the
"Crash Net" - she stated this on the radio - we did not hear the crash
net radio traffic - perhaps it is not broadcast via radio or maybe it
is encrypted)
Airport Fire BC orders Mass Casualty Alarms - at 9 PM both Alexandria
FD and Arlington County FD dispatch multi fire engines and ambulances
to the airport
note to self - pretty sure that the initial dispatch for the regan
airport fd was heard on TG3A on the wmaa feed - then enroute and
onscene comms were on 3L and 3M - the Arlington MCI Alarm was also
heard on TG 3A - maybe that was redundant actually - a function of the
CAD to CAD link perhaps - note sure about this - but anyhow - initial
dispatch at 2049 hours with big upgrade at 2100 hours
DCFD also had a full response - will need to check the times
technically speaking - per google maps - all of the potomoc river is
in washington dc - however dcfd has no units stationed on the west
side of the potomoc river - so its a legal distinction but not a real
operational distinction - technically speaking if the aircraft landed
in the river in DC - then DC should be the IC and run the show - but
the airport can get there as quick as DCFD and the airport might
actually have more boats than DC
unnown what assets the USCG has in the area - would be surprised if
they can get more than 2 thirty foot boats to the scene in under 30
minutes
alexandria VA - mci dispatch was at 9 pm
https://www.openmhz.com/system/alex?call-id=679add5aa8869711be231252&time=1738202419001
that might be the tape - or did it just get deleted?
859 PM - Eng 204 was placed out of service - they were staffing
Fireboat 201 and going to a crash at the airport in the river
that might be the tape - or did it just get deleted?
859 PM - Eng 204 was placed out of service - they were staffing
Fireboat 201 and going to a crash at the airport in the river
dcfd radio comms on dca plane crash
https://youtu.be/xTyVcmnQL5A?si=Aj2lw-8oMFq3WIvm
from openmhz
sounds like dcfd boat 3 got onscene first
before that 1 unit reported smell of avgas in the area
initial reports were 1 helo then 2 helos then 1 jet - this
minimization happens alot - people just dont want to think about a
major disaster when its staring them right in the face
openness - live scanner audio
from openmhz
sounds like dcfd boat 3 got onscene first
before that 1 unit reported smell of avgas in the area
initial reports were 1 helo then 2 helos then 1 jet - this
minimization happens alot - people just dont want to think about a
major disaster when its staring them right in the face
openness - live scanner audio
more info on dc plane crash
https://youtu.be/hfgllf1L9_4?si=Us4DqK55GGFkNdta
very good info here - atc comms + crash phone comms + DCA ground channel comms
(note - there are probably more radio comms tapes avail;able -
specifically airport fire sta 301 plus dcfd + alexandria fd +
arlington county fd
helo did see the wrong plane - it wasnt the departing plane however -
it was the number 2 plane lined up to land
also - per comments at yt -
As a non-pilot my guess is the cocky Army Pilots have been doing that
shoot across the landing path for years and it finally bit them in the
ass
@sandpiperr
7 minutes ago
@thep751 The problem is this plane was landing so they're actively
changing altitude. However, they're over a freaking airport! Obviously
there's going to be a lot of planes changing altitude around. In fact,
on the video from the Kennedy Center, you can see that there's another
plane in the footage taking off.
Reply
@regould221
4 minutes ago
Umm no. The helicopter was on the normal flight path for helicopters
passing through DC. But the flight path has a max altitude for
helicopters of 200ft. The radar log shows the helicopter at 300ft and
it was climbing.
very good info here - atc comms + crash phone comms + DCA ground channel comms
(note - there are probably more radio comms tapes avail;able -
specifically airport fire sta 301 plus dcfd + alexandria fd +
arlington county fd
helo did see the wrong plane - it wasnt the departing plane however -
it was the number 2 plane lined up to land
also - per comments at yt -
As a non-pilot my guess is the cocky Army Pilots have been doing that
shoot across the landing path for years and it finally bit them in the
ass
@sandpiperr
7 minutes ago
@thep751 The problem is this plane was landing so they're actively
changing altitude. However, they're over a freaking airport! Obviously
there's going to be a lot of planes changing altitude around. In fact,
on the video from the Kennedy Center, you can see that there's another
plane in the footage taking off.
Reply
@regould221
4 minutes ago
Umm no. The helicopter was on the normal flight path for helicopters
passing through DC. But the flight path has a max altitude for
helicopters of 200ft. The radar log shows the helicopter at 300ft and
it was climbing.
about the dc air crash
it just occurred to me - even if the helo pilot fixated on the wrong
jet - he STILL was not supposed to fly thru the glide path / approach
path for the jetliners - you can be DAMN sure of that - you either
cross above or below the glide bath - you dont go thru it - ever
try to imagine what the approach and departure paths look like at
airports - big Vs that stick up out of the ground - you either go
around them or under them or over them - its not that terribly hard to
imagine - but you need to have the brain processor power to do it -
because there are no glideslope signs floating up there in mid air -
you would think that their electronics would display the glidepaths
and ground landmarks and even street names and flight obstructions
jet - he STILL was not supposed to fly thru the glide path / approach
path for the jetliners - you can be DAMN sure of that - you either
cross above or below the glide bath - you dont go thru it - ever
try to imagine what the approach and departure paths look like at
airports - big Vs that stick up out of the ground - you either go
around them or under them or over them - its not that terribly hard to
imagine - but you need to have the brain processor power to do it -
because there are no glideslope signs floating up there in mid air -
you would think that their electronics would display the glidepaths
and ground landmarks and even street names and flight obstructions
ntsb presser on dc crash
317 pm et - reporter says 1 controller / 2 radio channels / 2 microphones
not quite but close - 1 controller / 2 radio channels / 1 microphone actually
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZOXESQEkhmk?si=uxhGdlphYaXDfgbT
not quite but close - 1 controller / 2 radio channels / 1 microphone actually
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZOXESQEkhmk?si=uxhGdlphYaXDfgbT
Trump Says He Told Elon Musk to 'Go Get' the Astronauts on the ISS
lol loll lol lol lol
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/trump-says-he-told-elon-musk-to-go-get-the-astronauts-on-the-iss/ar-AA1pmg8o
pretty sure that trump would love to see elon and trudeau and newsom
and obama in orbit for a while - a long while
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/trump-says-he-told-elon-musk-to-go-get-the-astronauts-on-the-iss/ar-AA1pmg8o
pretty sure that trump would love to see elon and trudeau and newsom
and obama in orbit for a while - a long while
washington county pa spending $25M to upgrade radio system
https://www.fireengineering.com/fire-apparatus/washington-county-pa-emergency-communication-system-gets-25-million-upgrade/
afaik switching from analog to digital does NOT improve range in any
major way - so this article is probably 95% BS
afaik switching from analog to digital does NOT improve range in any
major way - so this article is probably 95% BS
dca is 3 air miles south of the white house
reagan airport is 3 air miles south of the white house as the old dead
crow flies
crow flies
Kents Store VA - paid ambulance gets the boot
https://fluvannareview.com/2025/01/removal-of-kents-store-ambulance-to-increase-response-time/
oh my
maybe some damn yankee was working as a paid medic
oh my
maybe some damn yankee was working as a paid medic
colorado springs - police response time data is bogus
https://krdo.com/news/2025/01/29/data-shows-co-springs-police-averaged-over-23-minutes-to-respond-to-high-priority-calls-in-2024/
just go thru the data for 2024 - pull out 100 real high priority calls
- and calculate the average response time - it is simple
city just annexed 2,000 acres near Schriever Space Patrol Base - maybe
6,000 new homes will materialize there within the next 5 years
just go thru the data for 2024 - pull out 100 real high priority calls
- and calculate the average response time - it is simple
city just annexed 2,000 acres near Schriever Space Patrol Base - maybe
6,000 new homes will materialize there within the next 5 years
Wednesday, January 29, 2025
comment at lookner yt 1126 pm et
tipirick
Neither pilot saw the other. Helo pilot was told go behinfd the jet
and prob was looking at that other jet taking off on 1, not the one
landing on 22
Neither pilot saw the other. Helo pilot was told go behinfd the jet
and prob was looking at that other jet taking off on 1, not the one
landing on 22
atc radio traffic re dca crash
https://x.com/NOVAScanner/status/1884804664392093928
that is probably the helo channel - the controller was probably
simulcasting on the tower channel and the helo channel
there is a double on this recording - maybe at the time of impact
maybe the helo saw the wrong plane - and the crj was in his blind spot
- off to left - approaching at an angle - with lots of lights on the
ground
that is probably the helo channel - the controller was probably
simulcasting on the tower channel and the helo channel
there is a double on this recording - maybe at the time of impact
maybe the helo saw the wrong plane - and the crj was in his blind spot
- off to left - approaching at an angle - with lots of lights on the
ground
92k hits - atc audio - dca plane crash
https://x.com/airplaneian/status/1884791368373219520
92,000 listens in 1 hour
openness - live scanner audio - breaking news
92,000 listens in 1 hour
openness - live scanner audio - breaking news
Re: wash dc major plane crash into potomac river
https://fire.fandom.com/wiki/Metropolitan_Washington_Airports_Authority_Fire_Department
- station 301 is at dca - there are 2 boathouses there also
apparently a army vip helo hit a jetliner - seemed like a direct hit -
neither aircraft changed altitude just before the crash - helo was
flying level
- station 301 is at dca - there are 2 boathouses there also
apparently a army vip helo hit a jetliner - seemed like a direct hit -
neither aircraft changed altitude just before the crash - helo was
flying level
Re: forest fire mgmt rig - cann river victoria australia
maybe Parks Victoria -
https://www.facebook.com/CFACannValleyFireBrigade/posts/pfbid0xGAX8bv3uBocpWoXRSoWR2Jxyarh6GgzbRuoi9FVWEPTyRVeJaKqe49Qi2ZToMK1l
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 8:49 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://maps.app.goo.gl/UbMKYtq5HLMLpczC7
>
> that might be a national park wildfire engine
>
> seems to have a big traffic control sign up top
>
> 500 gallon water trailer also attached
https://www.facebook.com/CFACannValleyFireBrigade/posts/pfbid0xGAX8bv3uBocpWoXRSoWR2Jxyarh6GgzbRuoi9FVWEPTyRVeJaKqe49Qi2ZToMK1l
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 8:49 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://maps.app.goo.gl/UbMKYtq5HLMLpczC7
>
> that might be a national park wildfire engine
>
> seems to have a big traffic control sign up top
>
> 500 gallon water trailer also attached
forest fire mgmt rig - cann river victoria australia
https://maps.app.goo.gl/UbMKYtq5HLMLpczC7
that might be a national park wildfire engine
seems to have a big traffic control sign up top
500 gallon water trailer also attached
that might be a national park wildfire engine
seems to have a big traffic control sign up top
500 gallon water trailer also attached
mendo sheriff knows how to use twitter
https://x.com/MendoSheriff/status/1884588327300473185
mendocino county california
situational awareness openness transparency live scanner audio related
mendocino county california
situational awareness openness transparency live scanner audio related
Eaton Fire and Palisades Fire - final totals per FEMA Daily Ops Briefs
Eaton Fire and Palisades Fire - final totals per FEMA Daily Ops Briefs
Eaton Fire - final entry 1/23/2025 - 6,119 homes destroyed - 11 dead
Palisades Fire - final entry 1/27/2025 - 5,561 homes destroyed - 11 dead
Grand totals - 11,680 'homes' destroyed - 22 dead
homes = "H = Homes and Mixed Commercial / Residential" - per fema
daily ops brief
Eaton Fire - final entry 1/23/2025 - 6,119 homes destroyed - 11 dead
Palisades Fire - final entry 1/27/2025 - 5,561 homes destroyed - 11 dead
Grand totals - 11,680 'homes' destroyed - 22 dead
homes = "H = Homes and Mixed Commercial / Residential" - per fema
daily ops brief
Re: socal fires - 16K homes destroyed - 27 dead
this info is wrong / incorrect - somehow we screwed up - or something
got changed
as of today - apparently 11,681 homes were destroyed between the 2 fires
let me go back to the fema daily ops reports and grab their final
numbers - and the dates they were posted
sorry for the major error - I am the guy always yelling about the
difference between 'homes destroyed' and 'buildings destroyed'
bottom line question - did they beat the Camp Fire in Palisade CA in
2018 or not?
On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 10:15 AM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
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> https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/20/file_attachments/3137563/FEMA
> Daily Ops Briefing 01-20-2025.pdf - FEMA Daily Ops Briefing
>
> looks like the palisades fire damage map is 80% complete - and some
> dense neighborhoods have not been surveyed yet - so the final total
> might be 20K homes destroyed
>
> damn - they might beat the Camp Fire in Paradise CA in 2018
>
> keywords - palisades fire - palisade fire - eaton fire - lafd - la co
> fd - los angeles - socal
got changed
as of today - apparently 11,681 homes were destroyed between the 2 fires
let me go back to the fema daily ops reports and grab their final
numbers - and the dates they were posted
sorry for the major error - I am the guy always yelling about the
difference between 'homes destroyed' and 'buildings destroyed'
bottom line question - did they beat the Camp Fire in Palisade CA in
2018 or not?
On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 10:15 AM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/20/file_attachments/3137563/FEMA
> Daily Ops Briefing 01-20-2025.pdf - FEMA Daily Ops Briefing
>
> looks like the palisades fire damage map is 80% complete - and some
> dense neighborhoods have not been surveyed yet - so the final total
> might be 20K homes destroyed
>
> damn - they might beat the Camp Fire in Paradise CA in 2018
>
> keywords - palisades fire - palisade fire - eaton fire - lafd - la co
> fd - los angeles - socal
BREAKING: President Trump says he is opening detention center at Guantanamo Bay to hold 30,000 migrants in US illegally
24/7 trolling from white house
imagine what sort of evil crap they are hiding from view
where is mike flynn roger stone erik prince ivanka trump info wars guy
the mentally ill guy that proclaimed in court that he was mentally ill
ali alexander nick fuentes ?
why do we even have to be exposed to the names of these wretches?
imagine what sort of evil crap they are hiding from view
where is mike flynn roger stone erik prince ivanka trump info wars guy
the mentally ill guy that proclaimed in court that he was mentally ill
ali alexander nick fuentes ?
why do we even have to be exposed to the names of these wretches?
Former U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez sentenced for taking bribes of cash and gold from Egyptian officials
11 years
is he really guilty? or was it just time to serve up 1 Democrat to
even the score a little?
is he really guilty? or was it just time to serve up 1 Democrat to
even the score a little?
private firefighters helped in socal fires
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-01-11/southern-california-wildfires-private-firefighters-jump-into-action
no specifics
they dont have red lights and sirens
they dont talk on FD radio channels
fire mercenaries would be another word perhaps
they have gel - maybe
many are CWN firefighters for the USFS - call when needed - approx
10,000 - wow - thats alot out of 19,000 (typical peak staffing in a
busy summer iirc)
no specifics
they dont have red lights and sirens
they dont talk on FD radio channels
fire mercenaries would be another word perhaps
they have gel - maybe
many are CWN firefighters for the USFS - call when needed - approx
10,000 - wow - thats alot out of 19,000 (typical peak staffing in a
busy summer iirc)
laramie county fire station burns
https://www.fireengineering.com/news/three-brush-trucks-lost-in-laramie-county-wy-station-fire/
No one was injured, since the building isn't typically staffed,
according to LCFA Chief Jason Caughey. The fire did, however, cause
extensive damage and appeared to burn internally for a while before
external signs triggered the initial 911 call.
what - external signs? - you mean fire was belching out of the bld and
someone called 911 and the fire station does not have sprinklers or an
alarm system
my gawd - lol - 99% of fire stations in usa dont have alarm system or
sprinklers ish
No one was injured, since the building isn't typically staffed,
according to LCFA Chief Jason Caughey. The fire did, however, cause
extensive damage and appeared to burn internally for a while before
external signs triggered the initial 911 call.
what - external signs? - you mean fire was belching out of the bld and
someone called 911 and the fire station does not have sprinklers or an
alarm system
my gawd - lol - 99% of fire stations in usa dont have alarm system or
sprinklers ish
Firefighters Say LAFD is Understaffed and Forces Unpaid Overtime
Firefighters Say LAFD is Understaffed and Forces Unpaid Overtime
oh my
https://www.fireengineering.com/news/firefighters-say-lafd-is-understaffed-and-forces-unpaid-overtime/
oh my
https://www.fireengineering.com/news/firefighters-say-lafd-is-understaffed-and-forces-unpaid-overtime/
shreveport police want new substation
https://www.ksla.com/2025/01/28/having-line-avenue-substation-would-improve-response-time-police-chief-says/
what is 1234 texas ave? is that pd hq? is that a typo?
dont the cops go on patrol?
what????????????
response times will be better - what ?????? - probably will be worse actually
seems like 95% of MSM news is pure fantasy these days
what is 1234 texas ave? is that pd hq? is that a typo?
dont the cops go on patrol?
what????????????
response times will be better - what ?????? - probably will be worse actually
seems like 95% of MSM news is pure fantasy these days
Man in Hoima Sets Family Ablaze - ? uganda ?
https://nilepost.co.ug/top-stories/239755/man-in-hoima-sets-family-ablaze
witchcraft husband vs catholic wife
police ignored family violence
2 kids and wife and husband burned - 1 kid died so far
police and ? neighbors ? took victims to hospital(s)
witchcraft husband vs catholic wife
police ignored family violence
2 kids and wife and husband burned - 1 kid died so far
police and ? neighbors ? took victims to hospital(s)
uganda police getting an upgrade
https://nilepost.co.ug/crime/239846/igp-byakagaba-touts-subcounty-model-to-improve-response-time-as-new-security-plan-takes-shape
each sub county station will have a desk phone and 2 emergency
motorcycles and walkie talkies
should improve response times
10,000 cops have been transferred to rural areas already - ish
each sub county station will have a desk phone and 2 emergency
motorcycles and walkie talkies
should improve response times
10,000 cops have been transferred to rural areas already - ish
first faa permit for 400 foot public safety drone
https://www.wdtn.com/business/press-releases/globenewswire/9349035/elk-grove-police-granted-first-ever-faa-waiver-to-fly-flock-aerodome-drone-as-first-responder-up-to-400-feet-with-full-city-coverage/
can fly at 400 feet citywide - versus previous 200 feet
at elk grove village illinois
can fly at 400 feet citywide - versus previous 200 feet
at elk grove village illinois
arl e1 still using e5
e5 is spare rig from 100 years old
the real e1 has been broken for at least 1 month now - unless they
sold it to schenectady or something
the real e1 has been broken for at least 1 month now - unless they
sold it to schenectady or something
weymouth mass had a technical rescue yesterday
https://x.com/FirehouseNews/status/1884636404002456060
house collapsed - 1 man rescued by FD with rescue tools
house collapsed - 1 man rescued by FD with rescue tools
fema daily ops brief - saved at wayback
https://web.archive.org/web/20250129160608/https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/29/file_attachments/3146432/FEMA
Daily Ops Briefing 01-29-2025.pdf
fema daily operations briefing
Daily Ops Briefing 01-29-2025.pdf
fema daily operations briefing
boston mass - severe weather today?
https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/29/file_attachments/3146432/FEMA
Daily Ops Briefing 01-29-2025.pdf
marginal risk for what? tstorm? tornado? fire and brimstone?
Daily Ops Briefing 01-29-2025.pdf
marginal risk for what? tstorm? tornado? fire and brimstone?
even the damn sun is wonky
https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/equation-of-time.html
even the damn sun is wonky
you think there are always 24 hours in every day? think again Cletus
just for fun
even the damn sun is wonky
you think there are always 24 hours in every day? think again Cletus
just for fun
google news today
https://news.google.com/home?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en
22 days after 10,000 homes were destroyed in the palisades fire and
the eaton fire - there is no mention of any fires in google news
so the rule is - fires are no longer news at a rate of 500 homes per day
22 days after 10,000 homes were destroyed in the palisades fire and
the eaton fire - there is no mention of any fires in google news
so the rule is - fires are no longer news at a rate of 500 homes per day
Tuesday, January 28, 2025
dogs see babys for the first time
https://youtube.com/shorts/4xA56LptpIg?si=N8yHPb-YuU0AKjgh
1 minute video - very nice - dogs see babys for first time
just for fun
1 minute video - very nice - dogs see babys for first time
just for fun
michelle malkin is now hard right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin
she did a photo op with burlington mass police about 5 years ago iirc
she did a photo op with burlington mass police about 5 years ago iirc
apparently no major flooding at malibu / palisades
apparently the floods for malibu were a nothingburger
but there might be toxic waste all over santa monica and beverly hills
now - there probably is - the products of incomplete combustion can
probably be very gnarly - and those burnt homes were chock full of
plastics and electronics
but there might be toxic waste all over santa monica and beverly hills
now - there probably is - the products of incomplete combustion can
probably be very gnarly - and those burnt homes were chock full of
plastics and electronics
trumplers gaslight fest
https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=oFCCIo8DOZmDDcY1&t=5986
trumpler was told that LAFD did not predeploy and there were no
traffic cops - and he just spins some BS story and ignores the
comments
total gaslighting
Palisades Fire
trumpler was told that LAFD did not predeploy and there were no
traffic cops - and he just spins some BS story and ignores the
comments
total gaslighting
Palisades Fire
how wrong is trump - let me count the ways
HOW WRONG WAS TRUMPLER - LET ME COUNT THE WAYS
what trump said
just remove all the vegetation - causes mudslides
turn on the water - the water was already turned on
rake the forests - well maybe he was partially right here - maybe some
vegetation management would helped slow down the fires - but once the
palm trees got blazing in the housing neighborhoods - its all over
==========
what trump should have said
next time we will upstaff the FD totally - I will pay for it out of my
own pocket
next time we will put fire trucks on patrol instead of hanging around
at the fire stations
next time we will put a cop next to every shrub to prevent anyone from
lighting them on fire
next time the electric company will kill their high tension lines or
clean out the vegetation
next time we will hire firefighters who live in the neighborhoods
next time we will get helicopter pilots who can drop water in the
right place - (assuming that lafd dropped all of their water in the
wrong places - or whatever they did with the first loads)
next time we will activate all 8 MAFFS 2 days before the fires instead
of 2 days after the fires - and this goes for most of the state and
federal; air assets - they were maybe very late to the show
next time the dispatchers wont take 15 minutes to come up with a comm plan
next time the alert system will work
next time there will be traffic cops to direct evacuees
what trump said
just remove all the vegetation - causes mudslides
turn on the water - the water was already turned on
rake the forests - well maybe he was partially right here - maybe some
vegetation management would helped slow down the fires - but once the
palm trees got blazing in the housing neighborhoods - its all over
==========
what trump should have said
next time we will upstaff the FD totally - I will pay for it out of my
own pocket
next time we will put fire trucks on patrol instead of hanging around
at the fire stations
next time we will put a cop next to every shrub to prevent anyone from
lighting them on fire
next time the electric company will kill their high tension lines or
clean out the vegetation
next time we will hire firefighters who live in the neighborhoods
next time we will get helicopter pilots who can drop water in the
right place - (assuming that lafd dropped all of their water in the
wrong places - or whatever they did with the first loads)
next time we will activate all 8 MAFFS 2 days before the fires instead
of 2 days after the fires - and this goes for most of the state and
federal; air assets - they were maybe very late to the show
next time the dispatchers wont take 15 minutes to come up with a comm plan
next time the alert system will work
next time there will be traffic cops to direct evacuees
beverly hills gets water from wells and metro water district
https://www.beverlyhills.org/DocumentCenter/View/7318/2023-Annual-Water-Quality-Report-PDF
metro water district gets water from north and central calif and
colorado river and sierra mtns
apparently there are no desalination plants in california - to get
water from the ocean
metro water district gets water from north and central calif and
colorado river and sierra mtns
apparently there are no desalination plants in california - to get
water from the ocean
jim acosta leaves cnn
Today's show was my last at CNN. My closing message: It's never a good
time to bow down to a tyrant… don't give in to the lies. Don't give in
to fear. Hold on to the truth… and hope.
time to bow down to a tyrant… don't give in to the lies. Don't give in
to fear. Hold on to the truth… and hope.
stamford ct - water shuttle video
https://youtu.be/5rHUb_nvUco?si=a9m_vSnhMHgUTGUy
2020 - 15 minutes - drop tank - water shuttle - siames - ldh - etc
lafd has none of this - there might not be any FDs in California that
do this - but eastern usa does it alot
2020 - 15 minutes - drop tank - water shuttle - siames - ldh - etc
lafd has none of this - there might not be any FDs in California that
do this - but eastern usa does it alot
Pacific Palisades Fire: Correcting Misinformation About LADWP’s Water System
Pacific Palisades Fire: Correcting Misinformation About LADWP's Water System
this is the city or regional water provider
https://www.ladwpnews.com/pacific-palisades-fire-correcting-misinformation-about-ladwps-water-system/
iirc they filled all 111 reservoirs and tanks before the fire started
electricity was not lost at any of the pumps
iirc the 3 tanks had 1 million gallons each - so the water dept would
pump water up to the 3 tanks - and then it would flow downhill in the
street pipes to the homes and hydrants - it sounds like too much was
coming out of the tanks relative to what could be pumped up into the
tanks - maybe there were only 6 inch mains going up the hills to the
tanks - that might limit the flow to 1000 gpm or 2000 gpm max
try to picture the scenario - first the tank is sitting there full -
nothing is going out and nothing is going in - then the LAFD opens a
few hydrants and the water level starts dropping in the tanks - so the
water dept pumps kick on and start refilling the tanks - and at some
point the LAFD is taking way more out of the tanks than the water dept
can pump back into the tanks - then you have a problem Houston -
especially if there is only 1 pipe filling each tank
one solution could be to grab a hydrant in Santa Monica and get 5
pumpers to relay water up to Palisade Village - but maybe the biggest
hose they have in the area is 3.5 inch hose - and it has high friction
losses so you cant really pump very much water thru it - maybe 500 gpm
other parts of the USA have 4 inch and 5 inch and 6 inch hose to relay
water over long distances - here is over a mile of hose on a Georgia
fire truck in 2014 -
https://statter911.com/2014/10/31/dropping-6000-feet-hose/
another solution could be to pump water out of the ocean - it would be
salt water - so you might destroy some pumpers - maybe not
another solution is to do water shuttles with tanker trucks and drop
tanks - but no one in california seems to use drop tanks - and lafd
only has 2 tanker trucks - tijuana might have 30 of them however - anf
has 5 - la county fd might have 5 also - so of 1000 fire stations in
los angeles county - only about 15 of them have water tanker trucks -
we commented about this many years ago - its weird
if tokyo fd ran lafd - there would be cisterns and volunteer fire
stations every quarter mile throughout the city - but lafd is too
supreme to do that - so yeah - tokyo fd is laughing at lafd right NOW
another solution might have been to open some valves between santa
monica pipes and beverly hills pipes and los angeles city pipes -
unless they are all part of the same system already
another solution could be to pump water from a beverly hills hydrant
into a la city hydrant - that might totally foul your drinking water
supply for a week - but maybe only in the eyes of a health dept nerd
this is the city or regional water provider
https://www.ladwpnews.com/pacific-palisades-fire-correcting-misinformation-about-ladwps-water-system/
iirc they filled all 111 reservoirs and tanks before the fire started
electricity was not lost at any of the pumps
iirc the 3 tanks had 1 million gallons each - so the water dept would
pump water up to the 3 tanks - and then it would flow downhill in the
street pipes to the homes and hydrants - it sounds like too much was
coming out of the tanks relative to what could be pumped up into the
tanks - maybe there were only 6 inch mains going up the hills to the
tanks - that might limit the flow to 1000 gpm or 2000 gpm max
try to picture the scenario - first the tank is sitting there full -
nothing is going out and nothing is going in - then the LAFD opens a
few hydrants and the water level starts dropping in the tanks - so the
water dept pumps kick on and start refilling the tanks - and at some
point the LAFD is taking way more out of the tanks than the water dept
can pump back into the tanks - then you have a problem Houston -
especially if there is only 1 pipe filling each tank
one solution could be to grab a hydrant in Santa Monica and get 5
pumpers to relay water up to Palisade Village - but maybe the biggest
hose they have in the area is 3.5 inch hose - and it has high friction
losses so you cant really pump very much water thru it - maybe 500 gpm
other parts of the USA have 4 inch and 5 inch and 6 inch hose to relay
water over long distances - here is over a mile of hose on a Georgia
fire truck in 2014 -
https://statter911.com/2014/10/31/dropping-6000-feet-hose/
another solution could be to pump water out of the ocean - it would be
salt water - so you might destroy some pumpers - maybe not
another solution is to do water shuttles with tanker trucks and drop
tanks - but no one in california seems to use drop tanks - and lafd
only has 2 tanker trucks - tijuana might have 30 of them however - anf
has 5 - la county fd might have 5 also - so of 1000 fire stations in
los angeles county - only about 15 of them have water tanker trucks -
we commented about this many years ago - its weird
if tokyo fd ran lafd - there would be cisterns and volunteer fire
stations every quarter mile throughout the city - but lafd is too
supreme to do that - so yeah - tokyo fd is laughing at lafd right NOW
another solution might have been to open some valves between santa
monica pipes and beverly hills pipes and los angeles city pipes -
unless they are all part of the same system already
another solution could be to pump water from a beverly hills hydrant
into a la city hydrant - that might totally foul your drinking water
supply for a week - but maybe only in the eyes of a health dept nerd
LAFD training manual from 2001
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/11283041/volume-3-lafd-training
engines have multi hose sizes - 3.5 + 2,5 + 1.75 + 1.5 + 1.0
figure 41 / item 46 - HT - 800 mhz - 3 watts - 40 channels capable -
has repeat and direct - presently programed with 18 LAFD channels -
has low battery chirp
engines have multi hose sizes - 3.5 + 2,5 + 1.75 + 1.5 + 1.0
figure 41 / item 46 - HT - 800 mhz - 3 watts - 40 channels capable -
has repeat and direct - presently programed with 18 LAFD channels -
has low battery chirp
wh press secretary says drought caused by bad valves
https://www.youtube.com/live/PcLBtY1y_qo?si=tVBwzrffHgTvYYGu&t=5188
white house press secretary seems to be hugely confused
did she say that because the water was turned off it caused the
drought that caused the fires - which trump apparently put out by
turning 'the water' back on - ????
and I dont remember Palisades residents speaking at the round table -
seemed to me that just politicians were there at the round table at
station 69 - maybe there was some other roundtable also
it was peak gaslighting / trolling all around
off course Bass didnt help at all by saying that residents could go in
immediately - there was nothing to recover basically
lets return to a previous question - how did dry hydrants affect the
fire fight? when did this happen? where did it happen? what was done
about it? did anyone try to open some valves to get more water
pressure into the area? or to do some relay pumping?
white house press secretary seems to be hugely confused
did she say that because the water was turned off it caused the
drought that caused the fires - which trump apparently put out by
turning 'the water' back on - ????
and I dont remember Palisades residents speaking at the round table -
seemed to me that just politicians were there at the round table at
station 69 - maybe there was some other roundtable also
it was peak gaslighting / trolling all around
off course Bass didnt help at all by saying that residents could go in
immediately - there was nothing to recover basically
lets return to a previous question - how did dry hydrants affect the
fire fight? when did this happen? where did it happen? what was done
about it? did anyone try to open some valves to get more water
pressure into the area? or to do some relay pumping?
I commit to telling the truth - per WH press secretary
https://www.youtube.com/live/PcLBtY1y_qo?si=fiXytrZu_S9jdFbI&t=3451
white house press secretary commits to speaking the truth - and in the
SAME sentence - claims that trumps policies are "wildly popular" -
even though he only won the election by 1%
there is a young woman with huge mental health problems
white house press secretary commits to speaking the truth - and in the
SAME sentence - claims that trumps policies are "wildly popular" -
even though he only won the election by 1%
there is a young woman with huge mental health problems
massive constitutional crisis in Wash DC now
https://x.com/AOC/status/1884328528084361563
the constitution was written in the 1700s - a long long long time ago
imho the head of FEMA should be the President - all we need is 1 guy
who responds to disasters that are in progress - we dont really need
an entire bureaucracy to counterbalance the Legislative branch -
unless we do
the constitution was written in the 1700s - a long long long time ago
imho the head of FEMA should be the President - all we need is 1 guy
who responds to disasters that are in progress - we dont really need
an entire bureaucracy to counterbalance the Legislative branch -
unless we do
NY state trooper, parents charged in faked shooting on Southern State Parkway, DA says | News 12
https://youtu.be/GVRSm_IxL4E?si=D_CFW2V8NPR4wF2b
per comments - his father was a corrupt drug dealing nypd cop
karen read john o'keefe adam lally meatball morrisey canton mass stoughton mass
per comments - his father was a corrupt drug dealing nypd cop
karen read john o'keefe adam lally meatball morrisey canton mass stoughton mass
2024 election results - usa
https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf
- 9 pages of info
Trump - 77 million votes
Harris - 75 million votes
approx a 1% difference - maybe 2%
Washington DC - 294,000 votes for Harris - 21,000 for Trump - YIKES!
DC is 40% white + 40% black + 10% Hispanic + 5% Asian - per wikipedia
apparently trump just got the Asian vote in DC - more likely he just
got the oligarch vote
- 9 pages of info
Trump - 77 million votes
Harris - 75 million votes
approx a 1% difference - maybe 2%
Washington DC - 294,000 votes for Harris - 21,000 for Trump - YIKES!
DC is 40% white + 40% black + 10% Hispanic + 5% Asian - per wikipedia
apparently trump just got the Asian vote in DC - more likely he just
got the oligarch vote
white house presser - turning on the water
finally someone asked
very very vagues answer was given about the corps of engineers
socal fires palisades fire eaton fire
148 pm et ish
very very vagues answer was given about the corps of engineers
socal fires palisades fire eaton fire
148 pm et ish
snap and social security payments will NOT be paused
snap and social payments wont be paused - per wh press secretery - 123
pm et - americans were confused by 'media reporting'
does not affect meals on wheels either
pm et - americans were confused by 'media reporting'
does not affect meals on wheels either
eaton canyon info
https://maps.app.goo.gl/u98uXysd4JYV9ARz9 - 360 degree photo from 2018
- nearby - rugged terrain - heavy brush
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EnxkkYZbWVFnYZX69 - 2017 360 degree photo
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y6xHu86tTm7PJ3Gf7 - LA County FD Sta 66 is
right here at the beginning of the canyon - apparently they have 1 TY1
engine and 1 TY6 patrol truck - perhaps cross staffed by 3 FT staff
24/7
near Sierra Madre and La Canada Flintridge and Pasadena - 3 cities
- nearby - rugged terrain - heavy brush
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EnxkkYZbWVFnYZX69 - 2017 360 degree photo
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y6xHu86tTm7PJ3Gf7 - LA County FD Sta 66 is
right here at the beginning of the canyon - apparently they have 1 TY1
engine and 1 TY6 patrol truck - perhaps cross staffed by 3 FT staff
24/7
near Sierra Madre and La Canada Flintridge and Pasadena - 3 cities
Midway KY gets new fire sta
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fire-station-ems-station-opens-231214618.html
also has a woodfored county ambulance
also has a woodfored county ambulance
Grants are imperfect lifelines for VFDs
https://triblive.com/local/valley-news-dispatch/grants-an-imperfect-lifeline-for-volunteer-fire-departments/
nice article gives overview of grants that are sought by VFDs in Pennsylvania
nice article gives overview of grants that are sought by VFDs in Pennsylvania
Monday, January 27, 2025
need more firefighters, better equipment, and less red tape
https://x.com/alexdatig/status/1884001527767130273
really? - says who?
socal fires
question - is it better to have 10 firefighters in a station 10
minutes away? or is better to have 3 firefighters in Palisades Heights
and 7 firefighters at the fire station?
really? - says who?
socal fires
question - is it better to have 10 firefighters in a station 10
minutes away? or is better to have 3 firefighters in Palisades Heights
and 7 firefighters at the fire station?
fort bragg calif has an incident
capt 8310 responding to assist pd - person cannot park nor stop a car
in mendocino county
chief 8301 responding
utility 8340 responding with 2
in mendocino county
chief 8301 responding
utility 8340 responding with 2
PAU do not carry pain drugs
https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/why-is-lacofd-mutual-aid-so-awful.472246/page-2#post-3995108
los angeles county - approx 170 engines - 6 of them are als and 28 are PAU
als engine has 2 medic/ffs on board - plus pain drugs
Paramedic assessment unit engine has 1 pm/ff onboard - and no pain drugs
los angeles county - approx 170 engines - 6 of them are als and 28 are PAU
als engine has 2 medic/ffs on board - plus pain drugs
Paramedic assessment unit engine has 1 pm/ff onboard - and no pain drugs
la canada flintridge - at wikipedia
city of 20,000 people - didnt the eaton fire just destroy lacanada flintridge?
no mention at wikipedia yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cañada_Flintridge,_California
Infrastructure[edit]
Emergency services[edit]
The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department (LASD) provides law
enforcement services to La Cañada Flintridge under contract and
operates the Crescenta Valley Station in La Crescenta.[55]
The Los Angeles County Fire Department (LACoFD) operates fire stations
19 and 82 in the city. Also an additional one at JPL NASA. Fire
stations 11 and 12 in Altadena, and station 63 in La
Crescenta-Montrose also serve the city regularly. Emergency
transportation is done by Care Ambulance Service. Annual landscaping
inspections and "stringent fire-safe building codes" were put in place
to mitigate the risk of wildfires, like the 2009 Station Fire.[13][56]
no mention at wikipedia yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cañada_Flintridge,_California
Infrastructure[edit]
Emergency services[edit]
The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department (LASD) provides law
enforcement services to La Cañada Flintridge under contract and
operates the Crescenta Valley Station in La Crescenta.[55]
The Los Angeles County Fire Department (LACoFD) operates fire stations
19 and 82 in the city. Also an additional one at JPL NASA. Fire
stations 11 and 12 in Altadena, and station 63 in La
Crescenta-Montrose also serve the city regularly. Emergency
transportation is done by Care Ambulance Service. Annual landscaping
inspections and "stringent fire-safe building codes" were put in place
to mitigate the risk of wildfires, like the 2009 Station Fire.[13][56]
fdny finally made it to the palisades fire
https://www.fireapparatusmagazine.com/fire-apparatus/fdny-chiefs-tour-los-angeles-ca-wildfire-devastation-to-learn-lessons/
emergency pickup trucks ??? - maybe ty6 engines
emergency pickup trucks ??? - maybe ty6 engines
mass ambs registered in NH
Cataldo Ambulance Service 137 Washington St Somerville MA 02143
Middlesex 0552 12/31/2025 781 873 4306 Host, Karen L
khost@cataldoambulance.com Private, Non Hospital EMS Non Transport
Career - whats up with this listing? - do they operate some specialty
squad in NH ? - bing says that Karen L Host is boss of Mobile Health
for Cataldo - that makes sense I suppose
Brewster 1298 Smyth Hooksett NH 03106 Merrimack 0517 12/31/2025
617-Brewster, mark@brewsterambulance.com Private, Non EMS Transport
Career Printed On: 11/18/2024
Boston MedFlight 150 Hanscom Drive Bedford MA 01730 Middlesex 0535
12/31/2025 800 233 8998 Farkas, Andrew M
andrew.farkas@bostonmedflight.org Private, Non Hospital EMS Transport
Career Boston MedFlight 150 Hanscom Drive Bedford MA 01730 Middlesex
0535 12/31/2025 800 233 8998 Moore, Charles L
andrew.farkas@bostonmedflight.org Private, Non Hospital EMS Transport
they list agency twice if they have a new chief
Lifecare 240 Pleasant St Methuen (Town MA 01844 Essex 0538 12/31/2025
866-Ngethe, tngethe@lifecareambulance.org Private, Non hospital - EMS
Transport - Career
PRIDEStar EMS Inc 229 Stedman Street Lowell MA 01851 Middlesex 0440
12/31/2025 978 441 0911 Daly, David Jhebert@pridestarems.com Private,
Non Hospital EMS Transport Career
UMass Life Flight 55 Lake Ave North Worcester MA 01655 Worcester 0534
12/31/2025 518 527 1879 Stubba, William D liam.smith@airmethods.com
Hospital Based EMS Transport Career
there might be more - dont have time to go thru with a fine toothed comb
Middlesex 0552 12/31/2025 781 873 4306 Host, Karen L
khost@cataldoambulance.com Private, Non Hospital EMS Non Transport
Career - whats up with this listing? - do they operate some specialty
squad in NH ? - bing says that Karen L Host is boss of Mobile Health
for Cataldo - that makes sense I suppose
Brewster 1298 Smyth Hooksett NH 03106 Merrimack 0517 12/31/2025
617-Brewster, mark@brewsterambulance.com Private, Non EMS Transport
Career Printed On: 11/18/2024
Boston MedFlight 150 Hanscom Drive Bedford MA 01730 Middlesex 0535
12/31/2025 800 233 8998 Farkas, Andrew M
andrew.farkas@bostonmedflight.org Private, Non Hospital EMS Transport
Career Boston MedFlight 150 Hanscom Drive Bedford MA 01730 Middlesex
0535 12/31/2025 800 233 8998 Moore, Charles L
andrew.farkas@bostonmedflight.org Private, Non Hospital EMS Transport
they list agency twice if they have a new chief
Lifecare 240 Pleasant St Methuen (Town MA 01844 Essex 0538 12/31/2025
866-Ngethe, tngethe@lifecareambulance.org Private, Non hospital - EMS
Transport - Career
PRIDEStar EMS Inc 229 Stedman Street Lowell MA 01851 Middlesex 0440
12/31/2025 978 441 0911 Daly, David Jhebert@pridestarems.com Private,
Non Hospital EMS Transport Career
UMass Life Flight 55 Lake Ave North Worcester MA 01655 Worcester 0534
12/31/2025 518 527 1879 Stubba, William D liam.smith@airmethods.com
Hospital Based EMS Transport Career
there might be more - dont have time to go thru with a fine toothed comb
websters mills amb in nh has a new base
https://www.facebook.com/people/Webster-Mills-Ambulance-LLC/100075551307639/
not sure where are who or when or why
the state ems list shows them at 1125 RT 3A in bow nh
their facebook pages mentions a new location
not sure where are who or when or why
the state ems list shows them at 1125 RT 3A in bow nh
their facebook pages mentions a new location
Santa's Village has an EMS Squad
Santa's Village 528 Presidential Highway Jefferson NH 03583 Coos 0439
12/31/2025 603 586 4445 Ledoux, Amelia Amelia@SANTASVILLAGE.COM
Private, Non Hospital EMS Non Transport Career
from 11/2024 list at
https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/fstems/ems/documents/Grouped-Reports---EMS-Units-with-Chief-and-Unit-Email---Scheduled_2024-11-18_121529.PDF
12/31/2025 603 586 4445 Ledoux, Amelia Amelia@SANTASVILLAGE.COM
Private, Non Hospital EMS Non Transport Career
from 11/2024 list at
https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/fstems/ems/documents/Grouped-Reports---EMS-Units-with-Chief-and-Unit-Email---Scheduled_2024-11-18_121529.PDF
nebraska has a red flag today
https://x.com/HotshotWake/status/1883886777083253234
arent they having snow today? and every day? - nope - no snow in Nebraska - OMG!
chicago area has wildfire weather watch - oh my X 2
chicago fd might be the only major FD in the USA that does not have a
single brush truck - maybe - but they have 1 or 2 helos - someone get
them a 5 gallon pail on a rope
chicago fd helo could pretend to be a milhouse helco - 'the city
started to burn - and - then it burned' - thanks you milhouse
arent they having snow today? and every day? - nope - no snow in Nebraska - OMG!
chicago area has wildfire weather watch - oh my X 2
chicago fd might be the only major FD in the USA that does not have a
single brush truck - maybe - but they have 1 or 2 helos - someone get
them a 5 gallon pail on a rope
chicago fd helo could pretend to be a milhouse helco - 'the city
started to burn - and - then it burned' - thanks you milhouse
fema daily ops brief - final entry on Palisades Fire
Palisades Fire - final entry - 23,448 acres - 90% contained - 5,561
homes destroyed - 1,275 other buildings destroyed - 11 deaths - 852
homes damaged - 168 other blds damaged
====================
looking at the fire damage map - 20% of homes were destroyed in the
Palisades Highlands area - where the fire was first reported - (we
might have the neighborhood name wrong)
fire was dispatched as 1195 Piedra Morada Drive, Los Angeles, CA,
90272 approx - you can find it on the damage map at -
https://recovery.lacounty.gov/palisades-fire/
fire then went south into Palisades Village and destroyed 100% of the
structures there - except for approx 200 homes near the intersection
of Sunset Blvd and Aimar Ave - the map seems to indicate that the fire
did not burn thru that area - need to figure out why
5 to 1 ratio - homes destroyed to homes damaged
https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/27/file_attachments/3143609/FEMA
Daily Ops Briefing 01-27-2025.pdf
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https://archive.is/o3H6S
homes destroyed - 1,275 other buildings destroyed - 11 deaths - 852
homes damaged - 168 other blds damaged
====================
looking at the fire damage map - 20% of homes were destroyed in the
Palisades Highlands area - where the fire was first reported - (we
might have the neighborhood name wrong)
fire was dispatched as 1195 Piedra Morada Drive, Los Angeles, CA,
90272 approx - you can find it on the damage map at -
https://recovery.lacounty.gov/palisades-fire/
fire then went south into Palisades Village and destroyed 100% of the
structures there - except for approx 200 homes near the intersection
of Sunset Blvd and Aimar Ave - the map seems to indicate that the fire
did not burn thru that area - need to figure out why
5 to 1 ratio - homes destroyed to homes damaged
https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/27/file_attachments/3143609/FEMA
Daily Ops Briefing 01-27-2025.pdf
A snapshot was captured. Visit page:
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https://archive.is/o3H6S
reality tv couple sue over palisades fire
https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/24/reality-tv-couple-sues-the-city-of-los-angeles-after-losing-home-in-fires/
Reality TV couple sues the city of Los Angeles after losing home in
Palisades Fire
====================
lets look at a possible timeline
fire starts at 1030 am
1035 am - 3 helos drop water on the fire - the fire does not go out
5 pm - couples house burns
6 pm - hydrants go dry
in this possible timeline you can see that this lawsuit (as it is
framed now) should fail - the failed hydrants did not cause the loss -
however if you want to sue the helicopter pilots - then maybe the suit
would win
this is the cold hearted 'legal' truth - reality or reality tv might
be very different
Reality TV couple sues the city of Los Angeles after losing home in
Palisades Fire
====================
lets look at a possible timeline
fire starts at 1030 am
1035 am - 3 helos drop water on the fire - the fire does not go out
5 pm - couples house burns
6 pm - hydrants go dry
in this possible timeline you can see that this lawsuit (as it is
framed now) should fail - the failed hydrants did not cause the loss -
however if you want to sue the helicopter pilots - then maybe the suit
would win
this is the cold hearted 'legal' truth - reality or reality tv might
be very different
Re: "The trouble is, experts say, Trump’s assertions are wildly incorrect."
"We've got more than enough water in my opinion," Caruso, who served
on a city commission overseeing public works, told the Washington
Post. "How the water was deployed was the issue."
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:47 AM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "This has been debunked over and over again in the past two weeks,"
> said Peter Gleick, president emeritus of the Pacific Institute, a
> non-profit water research center based in Oakland. "There is zero
> connection between firefighting water needs and California's water
> policy. He's simply repeating lies."
>
> https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/24/trumps-claims-about-california-water-and-l-a-fires-are-inaccurate-and-misleading-experts-say/
on a city commission overseeing public works, told the Washington
Post. "How the water was deployed was the issue."
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:47 AM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "This has been debunked over and over again in the past two weeks,"
> said Peter Gleick, president emeritus of the Pacific Institute, a
> non-profit water research center based in Oakland. "There is zero
> connection between firefighting water needs and California's water
> policy. He's simply repeating lies."
>
> https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/24/trumps-claims-about-california-water-and-l-a-fires-are-inaccurate-and-misleading-experts-say/
"The trouble is, experts say, Trump’s assertions are wildly incorrect."
"This has been debunked over and over again in the past two weeks,"
said Peter Gleick, president emeritus of the Pacific Institute, a
non-profit water research center based in Oakland. "There is zero
connection between firefighting water needs and California's water
policy. He's simply repeating lies."
https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/24/trumps-claims-about-california-water-and-l-a-fires-are-inaccurate-and-misleading-experts-say/
said Peter Gleick, president emeritus of the Pacific Institute, a
non-profit water research center based in Oakland. "There is zero
connection between firefighting water needs and California's water
policy. He's simply repeating lies."
https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/24/trumps-claims-about-california-water-and-l-a-fires-are-inaccurate-and-misleading-experts-say/
Sunday, January 26, 2025
did LAFD get 2 new channels recently?
855.0125 WRWU813 RM - 205 DPL - LAFD 19 Tactical FMN Fire-Tac
855.7625 WRWU813 RM - 205 DPL - LAFD 20 Tactical FMN Fire-Tac
radio license was issued in 2023
los angeles california
855.7625 WRWU813 RM - 205 DPL - LAFD 20 Tactical FMN Fire-Tac
radio license was issued in 2023
los angeles california
biden and trump getting along great
https://youtube.com/shorts/VuoRGBqZVSk?si=XkaXDbCp4jIUuO_i
30 second video
just for fun
this AI stuff is gonna be a intergalactic disaster
30 second video
just for fun
this AI stuff is gonna be a intergalactic disaster
trump has the solution to the california fire problem
https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=WPGj16IRBAGJCGIp&t=7777
just remove all the vegetation
he said that 7 years ago also - lol - me too
just remove all the vegetation
he said that 7 years ago also - lol - me too
Re: trump is a national treasure
154 on tape - trump is told that 3400 of 18000 homes have been rebuilt
in paradise calif - fire was in 2018 while trump was in the white
house
158 on tape - 4 minutes later - trump is bragging that fema was great
under him - and - that paradise is doing great now - trump apparently
cant divide 3400 into 18000 - he has no clue what those numbers from 4
minutes ago were
note - the paradise fire started on national forest land iirc - so
thats under trumps command
note - the Paradise Fire was in 2018 when trump was in the white house
- so maybe fema was great under trump - but apparently they werent
THAT great - even if Paradise was not their primary responsibility;
apparently the fire was not afraid of trump's fema guys
note - if the paradise fire was in 2018 - and trump left office in
2021 - why werent all 18,000 homes rebuilt in 3 years? - trump said he
was a "great builder" - was that a LIE?
note - if Trump went to Paradise CA and saw the devastation first hand
- why didnt he speak up at least once in the last 7 years about it? -
in order to prevent the loss of 20,000 homes in Jan 2025? - maybe if
he had spent less time whining about the imaginary stolen votes -
Trump - can you name a single person who had their vote stolen?
note - 71% of Palisades voted for Harris over Trump - so Trump goes
there to spew BS and gloat over their pain - Trump actually had the
gall to proclaim that he was right 7 years ago about raking the
forests in California and diverting the water - you and 50 million
other people were right about it - but Trump actually had power to do
something about it - and he did nothing
note - bet you $10 that Trump has no clue that there were 2 major
fires in Los Angeles County - he probably thinks that the Eaton Fire
was the Eating Fire - when he heard mention of a black neighborhood,
his brain froze
in paradise calif - fire was in 2018 while trump was in the white
house
158 on tape - 4 minutes later - trump is bragging that fema was great
under him - and - that paradise is doing great now - trump apparently
cant divide 3400 into 18000 - he has no clue what those numbers from 4
minutes ago were
note - the paradise fire started on national forest land iirc - so
thats under trumps command
note - the Paradise Fire was in 2018 when trump was in the white house
- so maybe fema was great under trump - but apparently they werent
THAT great - even if Paradise was not their primary responsibility;
apparently the fire was not afraid of trump's fema guys
note - if the paradise fire was in 2018 - and trump left office in
2021 - why werent all 18,000 homes rebuilt in 3 years? - trump said he
was a "great builder" - was that a LIE?
note - if Trump went to Paradise CA and saw the devastation first hand
- why didnt he speak up at least once in the last 7 years about it? -
in order to prevent the loss of 20,000 homes in Jan 2025? - maybe if
he had spent less time whining about the imaginary stolen votes -
Trump - can you name a single person who had their vote stolen?
note - 71% of Palisades voted for Harris over Trump - so Trump goes
there to spew BS and gloat over their pain - Trump actually had the
gall to proclaim that he was right 7 years ago about raking the
forests in California and diverting the water - you and 50 million
other people were right about it - but Trump actually had power to do
something about it - and he did nothing
note - bet you $10 that Trump has no clue that there were 2 major
fires in Los Angeles County - he probably thinks that the Eaton Fire
was the Eating Fire - when he heard mention of a black neighborhood,
his brain froze
trumps $10B meme cryptocoin
https://youtu.be/mUVCIMcx1MQ?si=JEp1w59gC2nlAxiz - has no economic
value - 5 minute report
Anthony Scaramucci discusses Trump's cryptocurrency push - 8 minute
report - https://youtu.be/mM9jhmCBNqg?si=jTZ1BrxrbcPMqPrk
Cathie Wood on Trump, Memecoin, Crypto, AI, ARKW | Bloomberg ETF IQ -
23 minutes - https://youtu.be/SMgGQpVnyEY?si=vafgBGQZbC4PDN2N - 4 days
ago
value - 5 minute report
Anthony Scaramucci discusses Trump's cryptocurrency push - 8 minute
report - https://youtu.be/mM9jhmCBNqg?si=jTZ1BrxrbcPMqPrk
Cathie Wood on Trump, Memecoin, Crypto, AI, ARKW | Bloomberg ETF IQ -
23 minutes - https://youtu.be/SMgGQpVnyEY?si=vafgBGQZbC4PDN2N - 4 days
ago
zerg90 analysis of the socal fires
when ntsb does a crash analysis - they often come up with several
major 'causes' - lets keep that in mind
zerg90 analysis of the socal fires
Palisades Fire
call was dispatched around 1030 am iirc - maybe some teens caused the
fire - the fire grew rapidly in a brushy area near homes
approx 6 helos responded on the first alarm - each maybe had 800
gallons of water onboard - lafd helos came from an earlier brush fire
on North Queen St so they arrived before any ground units
unknow where the la county aircraft came from - maybe 1 helo from
malibu and 1 helo from pacoima and 1 helo from further out - maybe all
3 came from pacoima - we might have one of their response times on the
V1 tape
super scoopers came from van nuys - not sure if there was 2 of them or
4 of them - iirc at least 1 super scooper acknowledged the call via
radio - maybe that was on a lafd radio channel - but they arrived
after the initial helos it seems
the first ground unit from lafd had a 10 minute run over 3 miles all
uphill - up 1000 feet - apparently there were ZERO ground units
prepositioned in that upper neighborhood which is maybe called
Palisades Highlands
la county ground units had runs of 5 to maybe 20 miles - so they were
much slower to respond than lafd ground units
lafd requested 40 extra engines in the first 10 minutes of the fire -
so mobilization speed was not a real issue - but already it was too
late apparently
the game at this point is to kill the fire - by any means possible -
there were many active hydrants around the homes - it was a modern
neighborhood with wide immaculate streets and immaculate homes - no
graffiti - no trash - definitely upper class - see google street views
efficient firefighting would require the IC to know where the flames
were located - which way the wind was blowing - the lay of the land -
the type of fuel and dryness
first arriving aircraft would try to drop water on the head of the
fire or at the most exposed residences - those decisions would be made
by the first arriving pilots or by the heloc (who was in Fire 4 / a
LAFD helo)
the super scoopers would try to drop while avoiding the helos and the
ground units - that would be coordinated by helco and/or by the first
arriving pilots - they do that all the time - it is rehearsed and SOP
coordination between aircraft and ground units can be hard - there is
just 1 a/g freq for lafd (154.83) and 1 a/g freq for la co fd (154.40)
- but if there is no one to talk to one the ground - then the channels
are useless essentially - and this happened at this fire
in fact Fire 4 can be heard calling on V1 looking for ground units -
he finally got thru to some BC who was still enroute to the scene
each fire pumper / engine has 500 gallons of water on board - hydrants
can supply 1k gpm to maybe 5k gpm - a ladder pipe can flow 1k gpm -
have not heard of any ladder pipes being used - the back yards can not
be seen from the street on Piedra Morada (St)
so how do you put out a fire if you cant see exactly where it is
located? how do you know which street to take to reach the fire? can
the helos send you some lats and longs? maybe - does the fire truck
have a GPS to enter the lats and longs from the helo? good question
when the smoke is billowing and the neighbors are screaming - its a
little late to be dealing with lats/longs/tom toms / gps etc
we never heard any helo giving any lats/longs - Fire 4 first mentioned
that the fire had already crossed Palisades Drive iirc - so that was
maybe a1/4 mile run or 1/2 mile run in the first 15 minutes of the
fire - ish
itw as avery dynamic high stress situation - their voices reflected
that - they knew what they were up against
too late to worry about reservoirs and smelt and fuel management and
emergency generators for water pumps at that point
note - possible los angeles water comes in via aqueduct from north to
reservoirs in Pacoima - then is sent to reservoirs and water tanks
throughout the city of Los Angeles
=========================
EATON FIRE
not sure where the fire started exactly - looked like it was under
high tension lines - maybe on the banks of a river / stream - maybe in
a Canyon - the fire started at night - the FD was very busy in the
area with wire down calls etc - not sure what the initial response was
- not sure where the initial units were sent - not sure if hand crews
and bulldozers were the initial attack units - not sure if there was
good coord between LA co FD and Pasadena FD and ANF
note - LA Co FD protects Altadena - Pasadena FD protects Pasadena -
ANF protects Angeles National Forest - NASA JPL FD might have been
nearby also - in other words - the initial dispatch maybe got units
from ANF + Pasadena FD + LA County FD + JPL FD - it was probably a
mutual threat zone and there were probably written mutual aid
agreements and SOPs in effect for all of the FDs - typically they have
full boundary drops in LA County - maybe not in every location - but
in many of them
if the fire was under high tension lines - maybe the FD could not get
close to the fire at all - and maybe it had spread to too large of an
area by the time the first responding units got into position
obviously something very bad happened because this 1 fire that started
as a small area (maybe 100 feet by 100 feet was first spotted)
managed to take out 6,000 homes
maybe when they got around to asking for 100 engines, they were told
that most of the units were at the Palisades Fire - so they would have
to wait for units to arrive from Sacramento or Las vegas - which is
wild - maybe Tijuana FD should have sent some engines
questions - what sparked the fire? was the power off? why was there
fuel under the electric tower? why was there fuel in the area? had any
retardant been applied to the area before the red flag? isnt there a
new retardant that can be applied once per year?
we will stop now - shalom
major 'causes' - lets keep that in mind
zerg90 analysis of the socal fires
Palisades Fire
call was dispatched around 1030 am iirc - maybe some teens caused the
fire - the fire grew rapidly in a brushy area near homes
approx 6 helos responded on the first alarm - each maybe had 800
gallons of water onboard - lafd helos came from an earlier brush fire
on North Queen St so they arrived before any ground units
unknow where the la county aircraft came from - maybe 1 helo from
malibu and 1 helo from pacoima and 1 helo from further out - maybe all
3 came from pacoima - we might have one of their response times on the
V1 tape
super scoopers came from van nuys - not sure if there was 2 of them or
4 of them - iirc at least 1 super scooper acknowledged the call via
radio - maybe that was on a lafd radio channel - but they arrived
after the initial helos it seems
the first ground unit from lafd had a 10 minute run over 3 miles all
uphill - up 1000 feet - apparently there were ZERO ground units
prepositioned in that upper neighborhood which is maybe called
Palisades Highlands
la county ground units had runs of 5 to maybe 20 miles - so they were
much slower to respond than lafd ground units
lafd requested 40 extra engines in the first 10 minutes of the fire -
so mobilization speed was not a real issue - but already it was too
late apparently
the game at this point is to kill the fire - by any means possible -
there were many active hydrants around the homes - it was a modern
neighborhood with wide immaculate streets and immaculate homes - no
graffiti - no trash - definitely upper class - see google street views
efficient firefighting would require the IC to know where the flames
were located - which way the wind was blowing - the lay of the land -
the type of fuel and dryness
first arriving aircraft would try to drop water on the head of the
fire or at the most exposed residences - those decisions would be made
by the first arriving pilots or by the heloc (who was in Fire 4 / a
LAFD helo)
the super scoopers would try to drop while avoiding the helos and the
ground units - that would be coordinated by helco and/or by the first
arriving pilots - they do that all the time - it is rehearsed and SOP
coordination between aircraft and ground units can be hard - there is
just 1 a/g freq for lafd (154.83) and 1 a/g freq for la co fd (154.40)
- but if there is no one to talk to one the ground - then the channels
are useless essentially - and this happened at this fire
in fact Fire 4 can be heard calling on V1 looking for ground units -
he finally got thru to some BC who was still enroute to the scene
each fire pumper / engine has 500 gallons of water on board - hydrants
can supply 1k gpm to maybe 5k gpm - a ladder pipe can flow 1k gpm -
have not heard of any ladder pipes being used - the back yards can not
be seen from the street on Piedra Morada (St)
so how do you put out a fire if you cant see exactly where it is
located? how do you know which street to take to reach the fire? can
the helos send you some lats and longs? maybe - does the fire truck
have a GPS to enter the lats and longs from the helo? good question
when the smoke is billowing and the neighbors are screaming - its a
little late to be dealing with lats/longs/tom toms / gps etc
we never heard any helo giving any lats/longs - Fire 4 first mentioned
that the fire had already crossed Palisades Drive iirc - so that was
maybe a1/4 mile run or 1/2 mile run in the first 15 minutes of the
fire - ish
itw as avery dynamic high stress situation - their voices reflected
that - they knew what they were up against
too late to worry about reservoirs and smelt and fuel management and
emergency generators for water pumps at that point
note - possible los angeles water comes in via aqueduct from north to
reservoirs in Pacoima - then is sent to reservoirs and water tanks
throughout the city of Los Angeles
=========================
EATON FIRE
not sure where the fire started exactly - looked like it was under
high tension lines - maybe on the banks of a river / stream - maybe in
a Canyon - the fire started at night - the FD was very busy in the
area with wire down calls etc - not sure what the initial response was
- not sure where the initial units were sent - not sure if hand crews
and bulldozers were the initial attack units - not sure if there was
good coord between LA co FD and Pasadena FD and ANF
note - LA Co FD protects Altadena - Pasadena FD protects Pasadena -
ANF protects Angeles National Forest - NASA JPL FD might have been
nearby also - in other words - the initial dispatch maybe got units
from ANF + Pasadena FD + LA County FD + JPL FD - it was probably a
mutual threat zone and there were probably written mutual aid
agreements and SOPs in effect for all of the FDs - typically they have
full boundary drops in LA County - maybe not in every location - but
in many of them
if the fire was under high tension lines - maybe the FD could not get
close to the fire at all - and maybe it had spread to too large of an
area by the time the first responding units got into position
obviously something very bad happened because this 1 fire that started
as a small area (maybe 100 feet by 100 feet was first spotted)
managed to take out 6,000 homes
maybe when they got around to asking for 100 engines, they were told
that most of the units were at the Palisades Fire - so they would have
to wait for units to arrive from Sacramento or Las vegas - which is
wild - maybe Tijuana FD should have sent some engines
questions - what sparked the fire? was the power off? why was there
fuel under the electric tower? why was there fuel in the area? had any
retardant been applied to the area before the red flag? isnt there a
new retardant that can be applied once per year?
we will stop now - shalom
this thing will go like wildfire
https://youtu.be/NS1Z-nKRqZQ?si=O5kxt-TesVbuHwVQ&t=3602
this thing will go like wildfire
Fox did not edit it out
this thing will go like wildfire
Fox did not edit it out
very last quip is the best!
Top Roastmaster Dave Landau Reveals Zuckerberg's Biggest Mistake
https://youtu.be/oHPt2DcR930?si=ybxqRVDeoEUPNVQ_
7 minute video - fist 3 or 4 minutes is about millennial crap - then
they get into zuckerburg
https://youtu.be/oHPt2DcR930?si=ybxqRVDeoEUPNVQ_
7 minute video - fist 3 or 4 minutes is about millennial crap - then
they get into zuckerburg
Re: trump is a national treasure
comment on lookner chat on yt
If they had done their jobs, they wouldn't have to sit there listening
to Trump because the fires would have been put out. They can't win
because they already failed on the job.
========================
(thats a huge 10-4)
all the controversy has been to protect the firefighters - because
they are a big political force - because they have lots of money and
free time - if 20K homes burn down - tough crap - suck it up
If they had done their jobs, they wouldn't have to sit there listening
to Trump because the fires would have been put out. They can't win
because they already failed on the job.
========================
(thats a huge 10-4)
all the controversy has been to protect the firefighters - because
they are a big political force - because they have lots of money and
free time - if 20K homes burn down - tough crap - suck it up
Re: trump is a national treasure
updates - reviewing the tape again
138 - coastal commission is out of control
156 - half pipe has been built - was built a long time ago - was never
used - ??? - (no idea what he is talking about - maybe some tunnel to
carry water from delta region to los angeles)
202 ish - lawyer lobby is the most powerful lobby
204 - special german shepherds found the bodies in Paradise
210 - we were right -(vegetation needs to be reduced - enviro lawsuits
slow them down - 18 months to get a review - they must have slow
reviewers on staff)
211 - get the cleanup started - IT WILL GO LIKE WILDFIRE - lol lol
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol - (bet ya that Melania or Melania
2 kicked him hard when he said that)
=====================
note to self - need to confirm when water problems started - probably
was around 8pm because they seemed to have plenty of water at
palisades village school per the video on YT
138 - coastal commission is out of control
156 - half pipe has been built - was built a long time ago - was never
used - ??? - (no idea what he is talking about - maybe some tunnel to
carry water from delta region to los angeles)
202 ish - lawyer lobby is the most powerful lobby
204 - special german shepherds found the bodies in Paradise
210 - we were right -(vegetation needs to be reduced - enviro lawsuits
slow them down - 18 months to get a review - they must have slow
reviewers on staff)
211 - get the cleanup started - IT WILL GO LIKE WILDFIRE - lol lol
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol - (bet ya that Melania or Melania
2 kicked him hard when he said that)
=====================
note to self - need to confirm when water problems started - probably
was around 8pm because they seemed to have plenty of water at
palisades village school per the video on YT
AI for Israel EMS
https://www.columbusjewishnews.com/jns/how-life-saving-ai-tech-used-by-united-hatzalah-was-born-out-of-oct-7/article_94e106a6-78a0-5b0b-a798-31b92685adfb.html
pretty sure that AMR has been doing this for 25 years in the USA
pretty sure that AMR has been doing this for 25 years in the USA
Hadley Mass FD wants to upgrade to ALS
https://www.gazettenet.com/Hadley-fire-chief-outlines-demands-on-ambulance-service-59075967
article has several problems - doesnt differentiate between FF and EMT
and ff/emt and ff/pm - doesnt list the cost of the Action EMS contract
- isnt clear on the Action EMS revenue - is it $700K each year over
the last 3 years for a total of $2.1M over 3 years? - was Action EMS
running a ALS ambulance? - just 1? - what other mutual aid is
available?
bottom line might be - the town will save money but not paying for
Action EMS's profits - will save money by having lower fire insurance
rates - town will earn more money by doing more EMS transports - town
will save more lives maybe by having faster EMS responses
if they have a 15 man paid FD plus a 15 man oncall FD - and the paid
guys also have pagers - and the paid guys all live in town - then they
can probably staff 2.5 ambulances
note - the ambulance that transports the patient tp the hospital is
the ambulance that gets the money for Medicare etc - if a mutual aid
ambulance goes into Hadley and picks up a patient - then the mutual
aid ambulance 'makes the money' on the call
note - each ALS call gets $1500 - its like free money for the town -
the town does not get any money for responding to police calls or fire
calls
article has several problems - doesnt differentiate between FF and EMT
and ff/emt and ff/pm - doesnt list the cost of the Action EMS contract
- isnt clear on the Action EMS revenue - is it $700K each year over
the last 3 years for a total of $2.1M over 3 years? - was Action EMS
running a ALS ambulance? - just 1? - what other mutual aid is
available?
bottom line might be - the town will save money but not paying for
Action EMS's profits - will save money by having lower fire insurance
rates - town will earn more money by doing more EMS transports - town
will save more lives maybe by having faster EMS responses
if they have a 15 man paid FD plus a 15 man oncall FD - and the paid
guys also have pagers - and the paid guys all live in town - then they
can probably staff 2.5 ambulances
note - the ambulance that transports the patient tp the hospital is
the ambulance that gets the money for Medicare etc - if a mutual aid
ambulance goes into Hadley and picks up a patient - then the mutual
aid ambulance 'makes the money' on the call
note - each ALS call gets $1500 - its like free money for the town -
the town does not get any money for responding to police calls or fire
calls
calif - pump failed because power shut off
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-blames-newsom-biden-california-wildfires/story
electricity got shut off so the water pumps shut down - cal fire sent
in generators - cal fire does not have any generators afaik - maybe
OES sent in generators
in any case - shouldnt the emergency generators be in place before the
power is cut?
palisades fire - eaton fire - socal fires - jan 7 2025
electricity got shut off so the water pumps shut down - cal fire sent
in generators - cal fire does not have any generators afaik - maybe
OES sent in generators
in any case - shouldnt the emergency generators be in place before the
power is cut?
palisades fire - eaton fire - socal fires - jan 7 2025
springfield nh - house under repair
https://maps.app.goo.gl/iaovkVJtVBEA5nBz5
whats up with that? - huge steel I beam going in under a house
maybe the soil is sinking and they dont want the house to sink any
more? gonna need more than 1 I beam I imagine - maybe a 2nd I beam
will go under the other end of the house - depending on soil
conditions
whats up with that? - huge steel I beam going in under a house
maybe the soil is sinking and they dont want the house to sink any
more? gonna need more than 1 I beam I imagine - maybe a 2nd I beam
will go under the other end of the house - depending on soil
conditions
retardants from airtankers poison the environment
https://truthout.org/articles/new-research-links-wildfire-retardants-to-dangerous-heavy-metal-pollution/
do they really need those poisons in the retardant?
do they really need the retardant?
do they really need the airtankers?
type 1 helitankers seem to have replaced many of the airtankers already
do they really need those poisons in the retardant?
do they really need the retardant?
do they really need the airtankers?
type 1 helitankers seem to have replaced many of the airtankers already
Saturday, January 25, 2025
Re: tucson manhunt
https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/authorities-searching-for-escaped-inmate-from-tucson-prison
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 3:28 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/live/ZfzTDGYaMOc?si=NPDgNGQes9rQwmrq
>
> cop just chased off the cameraman
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 3:28 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/live/ZfzTDGYaMOc?si=NPDgNGQes9rQwmrq
>
> cop just chased off the cameraman
fire trucks vs equity firms
https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1i9tmyg/did_a_private_equity_fire_truck_rollup_worsen_the/
kegman83 is on crack - all fire trucks have built in ambulance suites
and long range encrypted radios - and he is a top 1% poster - omg
didnt we post this article earlier? where did it go?
kegman83 is on crack - all fire trucks have built in ambulance suites
and long range encrypted radios - and he is a top 1% poster - omg
didnt we post this article earlier? where did it go?
Re: folsom dam spillway
https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1i9xcs1/comment/m95tjaz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
'turning the valve' would cause an ecological disaster
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 8:22 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://x.com/billprady/status/1883257651821523283
>
> spilling water into the ocean - or not
'turning the valve' would cause an ecological disaster
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 8:22 PM Peteri Szerlagi <zerg90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://x.com/billprady/status/1883257651821523283
>
> spilling water into the ocean - or not
trump might eliminate income taxes
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/trump-wants-to-eliminate-income-taxes-5-ways-this-could-impact-your-salary-in-2025/ar-AA1xQobm
we remember him mentioning a flat 10% tax - but he says many many
things that never ever happen
and whats the point of making changes if the rich are just going to get richer?
we remember him mentioning a flat 10% tax - but he says many many
things that never ever happen
and whats the point of making changes if the rich are just going to get richer?
Boston Firefighters Capture Stabbing Suspect While Treating Victim Outside Boylston Street Firehouse
Boston Firefighters Capture Stabbing Suspect While Treating Victim
Outside Boylston Street Firehouse
https://youtu.be/uwFot7ByX48?si=Xr7pqe7UjGMeHgGL
3 minute video
posted yesterday - 4,000 views on YT already
Outside Boylston Street Firehouse
https://youtu.be/uwFot7ByX48?si=Xr7pqe7UjGMeHgGL
3 minute video
posted yesterday - 4,000 views on YT already
WCAX Investigates: The Crime Corridor between Vermont and Massachusetts
WCAX Investigates: The Crime Corridor between Vermont and Massachusetts
https://youtu.be/6W4cFojyzuI?si=SLpx1YqBQBQGBY2K
7 minutes
guns for drugs
110 - 2017 - 200 last 2 yrs - drug OD deaths in vermont
https://youtu.be/6W4cFojyzuI?si=SLpx1YqBQBQGBY2K
7 minutes
guns for drugs
110 - 2017 - 200 last 2 yrs - drug OD deaths in vermont
what are the odds that the hydrants were completely irrelevant?
what are the odds that the hydrants were completely irrelevant?
if 6 helos with an eta of 5 minutes were not sufficient to completely
stop the fire in its tracks - the Palisades Fire - then maybe the fire
was unstoppable from that point on
that is what happened basically
however - maybe if lafd and la co fd had better coordinated and better
positioned their units when responding to the call - maybe they could
have stopped the fire with the first 40 engines
iirc - we listened to the first 60 minutes of the fire tapes - and no
one reporte bad hydrants during that first hour - and no homes were
lost in the first hour - so maybe things started to go really bad in
the 2nd or 3rd or 4th hour of the fire
maybe all of this talk about reservoirs and valves and raking the
forest and tumbleweeds and epa inspections and trips to africa is all
100% diversionary from any discussion of the initial response and
initial attack
do we have any idea how long it took to dispatch the call? do we have
any idea what 911 calls were received initially?
if 6 helos with an eta of 5 minutes were not sufficient to completely
stop the fire in its tracks - the Palisades Fire - then maybe the fire
was unstoppable from that point on
that is what happened basically
however - maybe if lafd and la co fd had better coordinated and better
positioned their units when responding to the call - maybe they could
have stopped the fire with the first 40 engines
iirc - we listened to the first 60 minutes of the fire tapes - and no
one reporte bad hydrants during that first hour - and no homes were
lost in the first hour - so maybe things started to go really bad in
the 2nd or 3rd or 4th hour of the fire
maybe all of this talk about reservoirs and valves and raking the
forest and tumbleweeds and epa inspections and trips to africa is all
100% diversionary from any discussion of the initial response and
initial attack
do we have any idea how long it took to dispatch the call? do we have
any idea what 911 calls were received initially?
Re: [sme2] trump is a national treasure
iirc trump also said that all of the chaparral has to be removed
where on the tape is this comment?
note to self
where on the tape is this comment?
note to self
austria and california are dissimilar
https://x.com/SombreroMike/status/1883217253824643402
weird - politics 101 will be a required NIFC course for all FF1 this year
weird - politics 101 will be a required NIFC course for all FF1 this year
forest mgmt - trump style
https://x.com/r_aunt2512/status/1883297988245905599
if its easy to fix - and trump had 4 years to fix it - then why wasnt
it fixed? especially after he toured Paradise
if its easy to fix - and trump had 4 years to fix it - then why wasnt
it fixed? especially after he toured Paradise
Re: trump is a national treasure
forgot another important time stamp - damn
156 - halfpipe - water at coast - million years
is he talking about elon's hyper loop? omg
https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=JDfpBpQHyNlGX6yP
156 - halfpipe - water at coast - million years
is he talking about elon's hyper loop? omg
https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=JDfpBpQHyNlGX6yP
The Geography of California's Water
https://www.youtube.com/live/W42WB4gO6j0?si=ROxXN8gF7gjcoIF4
The Geography of California's Water
51 minute video - the system is complex
The Geography of California's Water
51 minute video - the system is complex
Re: trump is a national treasure
112 - beautiful (gay) firemen - they hire the best
dude - 20K homes just burnt down - how bestly are they really?
dude - 20K homes just burnt down - how bestly are they really?
Re: trump is a national treasure
https://web.archive.org/web/20250125190134/https://publicsafetyusa.blogspot.com/2025/01/trump-is-national-treasure.html
that might be the first time we ever got one of our blog posts to be
successfully saved at the wayback machine
that might be the first time we ever got one of our blog posts to be
successfully saved at the wayback machine
Re: trump is a national treasure
damn we left out the most important time stamps
at https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=JDfpBpQHyNlGX6yP
203 - no other state has lost all of their insurance companies
205 - Florida!
'some say' that this is proof positive that Trump is just a hyper
political conman racist nazi traitor
at https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=JDfpBpQHyNlGX6yP
203 - no other state has lost all of their insurance companies
205 - Florida!
'some say' that this is proof positive that Trump is just a hyper
political conman racist nazi traitor
socal update
re previous post - altadena was a redline area - only blacks could buy
property there - or blacks could only buy property there
also - trump was positive that more horribly incinerated bodies would be found
===========================
FEMA Daily Ops Brief - 25 Jan 2025 - Saturday
Palisades Fire - 5,554 homes destroyed (+3) - 1,270 other blds
destroyed (+12) - 11 deaths
====================
seems like they are not finding anymore destroyed blds - so that 5,555
number should be fairly firm - (lets just add 1 magically so the
number is easy to remember)
property there - or blacks could only buy property there
also - trump was positive that more horribly incinerated bodies would be found
===========================
FEMA Daily Ops Brief - 25 Jan 2025 - Saturday
Palisades Fire - 5,554 homes destroyed (+3) - 1,270 other blds
destroyed (+12) - 11 deaths
====================
seems like they are not finding anymore destroyed blds - so that 5,555
number should be fairly firm - (lets just add 1 magically so the
number is easy to remember)
trump is a national treasure
https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=JDfpBpQHyNlGX6yP
trump runs presser at fire station 69 in los angeles after palisades fire
1:11 on tape - trump starts talking
112 - beautiful (gay) firemen
113 - chimneys came down - really bad
114 - firefighters at a disadvantage - "congratulations sir" - over
100 mph winds - (lol - yeah they were 2 million mph winds)
117 - most expensive disaster in the USA - (the chaos king is drooling
with anticipation over causing even a larger loss)
117 - at least 28 dead THEY SAY
120 - no one said they were disgusted - (damn he is so clever working
that word in there - totally clever dude)
120 - someone met my wife IN A VERY DIFFERENT LANGUAGE
120 - seven years ago I said send water from northern california -
water has been coming from Canada for a million years - ??????
122 - austria and finland rake the forests - they have more flammable
trees - trees melt after inferno or during or something - (Germany is
adding many forest fire trucks due to increased fires - guess they
need more rakes too)
123 - paradise trees were OK - ? full of water ? - up to 100 mph winds
unheard of - (ever hear of a hurricane? - maybe you were in one once -
did the wind go over 100 mph - maybe it did - so you have heard 'of
them' and you actually 'heard' them)
125 - the fire was a genius - ???
125 - I made deal with Olympics - (wasnt there many media storys about
how utterly corrupt the Olympics were?)
132 - "I'll do a great job" - lol
132 - the other President couldnt help you - (2 people clapped - lol)
138 - water the tumbleweeds dammit!
138 - I am out of control - ????
140 - guy says - I saved my house by scooping water out of street
coming from homes above
141 - guy says - FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS NOT PREDEPLOYED - trump ignored
that comment
142 - need special master to watch the recovery funds
143 - large percentage of hydrants not working or had low pressure -
(IT WAS AN ACT OF THE HYDRANT GODS)
144 - I like it because we are talking about a large amount of money -
(says President Malevolent)
145 - its the same but different
146 - shouldnt have any permits - (Don the Anarchist has entered the chat)
150 - they are not safe now! - (and Trump comes to a screeching halt -
he yelled the quiet part out loud perhaps)
151 - we are the party of common sense - (if the clown shoe fits ...)
154 - give them a 10% bonus - (they probably would end up with all
slum row houses in that case)
154 - guy says - 3400 of 18,000 homes have been rebuilt at Paradise CA
- 1 foot of toxic soil has been scooped out under every home - (Trump
was there at Paradise - and apparently Trump thinks its great that
only 25% of homes have been rebuilt in 7 years - going great!)
158 - FEMA is lousy now - was great when he was President - (Captain
Clueless has entered the chat)
202 - I was a very good builder - lol
203 - guy says - people might not have money to rebuild - (trump
looking for details so he can screw over as many victims as possible
by buying them out)
204 - I read the (news)papers very well - ( interesting comment - iirc
liam nisson on twitter has said many times that trump cant read)
205 - losers should pay legal fees in court cases - yadda
there is probably more but who has time for all this schlock
response time was never mentioned once
trump runs presser at fire station 69 in los angeles after palisades fire
1:11 on tape - trump starts talking
112 - beautiful (gay) firemen
113 - chimneys came down - really bad
114 - firefighters at a disadvantage - "congratulations sir" - over
100 mph winds - (lol - yeah they were 2 million mph winds)
117 - most expensive disaster in the USA - (the chaos king is drooling
with anticipation over causing even a larger loss)
117 - at least 28 dead THEY SAY
120 - no one said they were disgusted - (damn he is so clever working
that word in there - totally clever dude)
120 - someone met my wife IN A VERY DIFFERENT LANGUAGE
120 - seven years ago I said send water from northern california -
water has been coming from Canada for a million years - ??????
122 - austria and finland rake the forests - they have more flammable
trees - trees melt after inferno or during or something - (Germany is
adding many forest fire trucks due to increased fires - guess they
need more rakes too)
123 - paradise trees were OK - ? full of water ? - up to 100 mph winds
unheard of - (ever hear of a hurricane? - maybe you were in one once -
did the wind go over 100 mph - maybe it did - so you have heard 'of
them' and you actually 'heard' them)
125 - the fire was a genius - ???
125 - I made deal with Olympics - (wasnt there many media storys about
how utterly corrupt the Olympics were?)
132 - "I'll do a great job" - lol
132 - the other President couldnt help you - (2 people clapped - lol)
138 - water the tumbleweeds dammit!
138 - I am out of control - ????
140 - guy says - I saved my house by scooping water out of street
coming from homes above
141 - guy says - FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS NOT PREDEPLOYED - trump ignored
that comment
142 - need special master to watch the recovery funds
143 - large percentage of hydrants not working or had low pressure -
(IT WAS AN ACT OF THE HYDRANT GODS)
144 - I like it because we are talking about a large amount of money -
(says President Malevolent)
145 - its the same but different
146 - shouldnt have any permits - (Don the Anarchist has entered the chat)
150 - they are not safe now! - (and Trump comes to a screeching halt -
he yelled the quiet part out loud perhaps)
151 - we are the party of common sense - (if the clown shoe fits ...)
154 - give them a 10% bonus - (they probably would end up with all
slum row houses in that case)
154 - guy says - 3400 of 18,000 homes have been rebuilt at Paradise CA
- 1 foot of toxic soil has been scooped out under every home - (Trump
was there at Paradise - and apparently Trump thinks its great that
only 25% of homes have been rebuilt in 7 years - going great!)
158 - FEMA is lousy now - was great when he was President - (Captain
Clueless has entered the chat)
202 - I was a very good builder - lol
203 - guy says - people might not have money to rebuild - (trump
looking for details so he can screw over as many victims as possible
by buying them out)
204 - I read the (news)papers very well - ( interesting comment - iirc
liam nisson on twitter has said many times that trump cant read)
205 - losers should pay legal fees in court cases - yadda
there is probably more but who has time for all this schlock
response time was never mentioned once
firestorm fd - for profit
https://fire.fandom.com/wiki/Firestorm_Wildland_Fire_Suppression
northern calif
approx 1 dozen ty3 and ty6 engines - 2 sta
private FD
northern calif
approx 1 dozen ty3 and ty6 engines - 2 sta
private FD
progression of the palisades fire
https://the-lookout.org/2025/01/21/progression-of-the-palisades-fire/
good info about how the fire spread
los angeles
good info about how the fire spread
los angeles
Friday, January 24, 2025
california water supply system
https://x.com/wildland_zko/status/1883011368774930616
we saw video of lafd fighting a school fire in palisades village with
a ladder pipe - so they had water in those particular hydrants after
dark - so that was at least 8 hours after the fire started
question - did any night flying helos drop water on the palisades fire
at night? wind was high but it wasnt knocking the cameraman over
did anyone try pumping water from a santa mobica hydrant into a los
angeles hydrant?
anyone do any relay pumping? - pump to 20 psi residual iirc - or is it
20 psi on intake?
did they bring any crash trucks in from laz? any industrial pumpers
from the refineries?
did the huge lafd fireboats respond?
did they save all of the homes near lafd sta 23 or 69?
we saw video of lafd fighting a school fire in palisades village with
a ladder pipe - so they had water in those particular hydrants after
dark - so that was at least 8 hours after the fire started
question - did any night flying helos drop water on the palisades fire
at night? wind was high but it wasnt knocking the cameraman over
did anyone try pumping water from a santa mobica hydrant into a los
angeles hydrant?
anyone do any relay pumping? - pump to 20 psi residual iirc - or is it
20 psi on intake?
did they bring any crash trucks in from laz? any industrial pumpers
from the refineries?
did the huge lafd fireboats respond?
did they save all of the homes near lafd sta 23 or 69?
trump live at palisades fires
https://www.youtube.com/live/DgkKpeF_uxE?si=82dybHzBedsbbNm5
staggering loss per trump - maybe biggest loss ever - need to get it rebuilt
FFs said they were at a disadvantage
trump got lots of calls from developers
gonna wave all federal permits - gonna declare a national emergency
staggering loss per trump - maybe biggest loss ever - need to get it rebuilt
FFs said they were at a disadvantage
trump got lots of calls from developers
gonna wave all federal permits - gonna declare a national emergency
cool figure about race by state in usa
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/stories/2021/08/2020-united-states-population-more-racially-ethnically-diverse-than-2010-figure-1.jpg
look at calif and texas and nm - texas is almost green like the other 2
go lina!
maine and vermont are totally whitesville
look at calif and texas and nm - texas is almost green like the other 2
go lina!
maine and vermont are totally whitesville
usa racial info - 2020
Prevalence Rankings and Diffusion Score
Prevalence rankings illustrate the percent of the population that
falls into the first-, second- or third-largest racial or ethnic
groups in 2020 (Figure 1):
The most prevalent racial or ethnic group for the United States was
the White alone non-Hispanic population at 57.8%. This decreased from
63.7% in 2010.
The Hispanic or Latino population was the second-largest racial or
ethnic group, comprising 18.7% of the total population.
The Black or African American alone non-Hispanic population was the
third-largest group at 12.1%.
from https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/2020-united-states-population-more-racially-ethnically-diverse-than-2010.html
is this "pure breds" only?
Prevalence rankings illustrate the percent of the population that
falls into the first-, second- or third-largest racial or ethnic
groups in 2020 (Figure 1):
The most prevalent racial or ethnic group for the United States was
the White alone non-Hispanic population at 57.8%. This decreased from
63.7% in 2010.
The Hispanic or Latino population was the second-largest racial or
ethnic group, comprising 18.7% of the total population.
The Black or African American alone non-Hispanic population was the
third-largest group at 12.1%.
from https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/2020-united-states-population-more-racially-ethnically-diverse-than-2010.html
is this "pure breds" only?
meme coins can be launched for $2
https://www.coingecko.com/learn/pump-fun-guide-how-to-create-your-own-memecoins
====================
apparently donald trump spent $2 and got $10 B in return
https://decrypt.co/302595/donald-trump-meme-coin-legal-limits-presidential-power-norms
====================
apparently donald trump spent $2 and got $10 B in return
https://decrypt.co/302595/donald-trump-meme-coin-legal-limits-presidential-power-norms
july 2024 - todd of blue tail technologies passed away
https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/report-of-todd's-passing.476702/
apparently he single handedly built an inexpensive P25 scanner
he took his own life - not married - no kids
apparently he single handedly built an inexpensive P25 scanner
he took his own life - not married - no kids
geisinger life flight gets more radio sites
https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/geisinger-life-flight-upgrades.484011/
pennsylvania
clear as mud - do they have 5 new radio sites or not?
pennsylvania
clear as mud - do they have 5 new radio sites or not?
Researchers Study Life After Death — And It Gets Weirder
Researchers Study Life After Death — And It Gets Weirder
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/researchers-study-life-after-death-and-it-gets-weirder/ar-AA1qCfX3
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/researchers-study-life-after-death-and-it-gets-weirder/ar-AA1qCfX3
Washington woman arrested in Vermont Border Patrol agent's fatal shooting
Washington woman arrested in Vermont Border Patrol agent's fatal shooting
https://www.wcvb.com/article/washington-woman-arrested-vermont-border-patrol-shooting/63544920
what were these 2 up to?
https://www.wcvb.com/article/washington-woman-arrested-vermont-border-patrol-shooting/63544920
what were these 2 up to?
trump might dump FEMA
Trump says he's considering 'getting rid of FEMA'
The comment, made during a briefing on the monthslong recovery from
Hurricane Helene, was the latest signal of how President Trump is
planning sweeping changes to the federal government's role in managing
catastrophes. per AP
it would be easy to nationalize all the FDs in the USA - local chiefs
report to county seat fire chief - county seat fire chief reports to
state fire marshall - state fire marshalls report to USA Fire Chief in
DC
done and done - took 30 seconds
The comment, made during a briefing on the monthslong recovery from
Hurricane Helene, was the latest signal of how President Trump is
planning sweeping changes to the federal government's role in managing
catastrophes. per AP
it would be easy to nationalize all the FDs in the USA - local chiefs
report to county seat fire chief - county seat fire chief reports to
state fire marshall - state fire marshalls report to USA Fire Chief in
DC
done and done - took 30 seconds
motorcycle deaths are up in the USA
In 2022, there were 6,218 motorcycle fatalities in the United States,
which was the highest number since at least 1975. This was a 25.22%
increase from 2013, when there were 4,610 fatalities.
Explanation
Motorcyclists are overrepresented in fatal traffic crashes, accounting
for about 14% of all traffic-related deaths.
The number of motorcycle fatalities has increased over the years, with
significant increases in 2020 and 2021.
The states with the highest motorcycle fatality rates in 2022 were
Texas, Arkansas, and Missouri.
Safety tips Share the road and be alert, Make yourself visible, Wear a
DOT-compliant motorcycle helmet, and Always ride sober.
from the bottom at
https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2025/01/23/traffic-safety/berkeley-motorcycle-crash-serious-head-injury/
which was the highest number since at least 1975. This was a 25.22%
increase from 2013, when there were 4,610 fatalities.
Explanation
Motorcyclists are overrepresented in fatal traffic crashes, accounting
for about 14% of all traffic-related deaths.
The number of motorcycle fatalities has increased over the years, with
significant increases in 2020 and 2021.
The states with the highest motorcycle fatality rates in 2022 were
Texas, Arkansas, and Missouri.
Safety tips Share the road and be alert, Make yourself visible, Wear a
DOT-compliant motorcycle helmet, and Always ride sober.
from the bottom at
https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2025/01/23/traffic-safety/berkeley-motorcycle-crash-serious-head-injury/
hinsdale nh fire station vote nullified
https://www.fireapparatusmagazine.com/the-fire-station/approval-of-land-purchase-for-hinsdale-nh-fire-station-overturned-by-state-agency/
lol - because the town saved $9K on the deal - some state bureaucrat
cancelled the vote
its insane
lol - because the town saved $9K on the deal - some state bureaucrat
cancelled the vote
its insane
usa is full of crazyness
https://x.com/dailybeanspod/status/1882802421900148938
50 Reddit communities are banning links to Twitter
50 Reddit communities are banning links to Twitter
President is very wrong about socal wildfires
https://x.com/RYP__/status/1882802483602637162
president is apparently confused about the movie Chinatown
president is apparently confused about the movie Chinatown
tb in court today
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1OyJAZLPVkyxb
turtleboy - police corruption - canton mass - karen read
live feed from outside
turtleboy - police corruption - canton mass - karen read
live feed from outside
fire wx update
elevated today - los angeles and abilene tx
elevated tomorrow - new mexico - 2 east west areas - north and south
halves of the state
per fema daily ops brief
elevated tomorrow - new mexico - 2 east west areas - north and south
halves of the state
per fema daily ops brief
socal fires update
from todays fema ops brief that has already been saved into the
wayback machine at
https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/24/file_attachments/3142028/FEMA
Daily Ops Briefing 01-24-2025.pdf
Palisades Fire - 23,488 acres - 75% contained - 5,551 homes destroyed
(+221 versus yesterday's report) - 1,258 other blds destroyed (+16) -
791 homes damaged (+35) - 145 other blds damaged (+5) - still 11
deaths listed
Hughes Fire - at Lake Hughes in Los Angeles County - 2,335 homes
threatened (-10,599) - 288 (-134) other blds threatened - 0 blds
destroyed or damaged - 0 deaths or injuries - 36% contained
apparently no more info on the Eaton Fire since the fire was placed
under control and the IMT relinquished control and released their
final update yesterday
IMT = incident management team = out of area fire commanders (ish)
wayback machine at
https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFEMA/2025/01/24/file_attachments/3142028/FEMA
Daily Ops Briefing 01-24-2025.pdf
Palisades Fire - 23,488 acres - 75% contained - 5,551 homes destroyed
(+221 versus yesterday's report) - 1,258 other blds destroyed (+16) -
791 homes damaged (+35) - 145 other blds damaged (+5) - still 11
deaths listed
Hughes Fire - at Lake Hughes in Los Angeles County - 2,335 homes
threatened (-10,599) - 288 (-134) other blds threatened - 0 blds
destroyed or damaged - 0 deaths or injuries - 36% contained
apparently no more info on the Eaton Fire since the fire was placed
under control and the IMT relinquished control and released their
final update yesterday
IMT = incident management team = out of area fire commanders (ish)
first tweet about palisades fire at CWT
https://x.com/CaliFireTracker/status/1876699605561192501 - wildfire
camera view of header
first post at California Wildfire Tracking at Twitter re the Palisades Fire
there were 1 or 2 tweets about the Sunset Fire on North Queen St just
before this Palisades Fire tweet - 25 engines had been requested to
the North Queens St fire
camera view of header
first post at California Wildfire Tracking at Twitter re the Palisades Fire
there were 1 or 2 tweets about the Sunset Fire on North Queen St just
before this Palisades Fire tweet - 25 engines had been requested to
the North Queens St fire
Thursday, January 23, 2025
la county and la city mega fire procedures
not sure about all of this
los angeles county FD and los angeles city fd have preplanned
procedures for handling very large fires
=========================
LA County FD
pretty sure that the county FD operates like this - first alarm brush
- 5 engines plus 2 hand crews plus 1 dozer plus 2 or 3 copters - 1
engine goes to helispot to feed the helos - 2nd alarm brush - 5
engines plus 2 hand crews plus 2 copters plus 1 dozer - third alarm
brush - 5 engines plus 2 hand crews plus 1 dozer plus remaining helos
- moveups are done for each brush alarm
for more apparatus - we believe that they contact the OES fire
coordinator - and they send strike teams of five engines each - they
might come from in county or out of the county
note - in mutual threat zones / on the borders between 2 FD areas -
both agencies will typically send a full brush response on the first
alarm
========================
LA City FD
not exactly sure what the LA City response protocol is
first alarm brush - 5 engines and 1 ladder and 3 copters and 1 dozer
and maybe 2 mutual aid hand crews - beyond that they can ask for any
number of additional engines and resources - for the Palisades Fire
they asked for 40 extra engines within 10 minutes of the first
dispatch - the extra units are probably a mixture of LA City units and
suburban FDs and out of county FDs
LAFD probably had approx 120 engines on duty when the Palisades Fire
broke out - so sending 45 engines to the fire is nearly 50% of their
available engines - if they wanted to request 20 mutual aid engines -
maybe they could get 5 from Long Beach and 5 from County FD and 5 from
Verdugo Dispatch and 5 from Torrance area
====================================
there might be 400 fire stations in Los Angeles County - if they had 3
engines at each station - then they could have 1,200 engines available
in the County at maximum staffing - in fact they should probably do
that - with 3 shifts on duty - they could staff all 3 engines - this
would help on brush fires and earthquakes and nuke bomb attacks
los angeles county FD and los angeles city fd have preplanned
procedures for handling very large fires
=========================
LA County FD
pretty sure that the county FD operates like this - first alarm brush
- 5 engines plus 2 hand crews plus 1 dozer plus 2 or 3 copters - 1
engine goes to helispot to feed the helos - 2nd alarm brush - 5
engines plus 2 hand crews plus 2 copters plus 1 dozer - third alarm
brush - 5 engines plus 2 hand crews plus 1 dozer plus remaining helos
- moveups are done for each brush alarm
for more apparatus - we believe that they contact the OES fire
coordinator - and they send strike teams of five engines each - they
might come from in county or out of the county
note - in mutual threat zones / on the borders between 2 FD areas -
both agencies will typically send a full brush response on the first
alarm
========================
LA City FD
not exactly sure what the LA City response protocol is
first alarm brush - 5 engines and 1 ladder and 3 copters and 1 dozer
and maybe 2 mutual aid hand crews - beyond that they can ask for any
number of additional engines and resources - for the Palisades Fire
they asked for 40 extra engines within 10 minutes of the first
dispatch - the extra units are probably a mixture of LA City units and
suburban FDs and out of county FDs
LAFD probably had approx 120 engines on duty when the Palisades Fire
broke out - so sending 45 engines to the fire is nearly 50% of their
available engines - if they wanted to request 20 mutual aid engines -
maybe they could get 5 from Long Beach and 5 from County FD and 5 from
Verdugo Dispatch and 5 from Torrance area
====================================
there might be 400 fire stations in Los Angeles County - if they had 3
engines at each station - then they could have 1,200 engines available
in the County at maximum staffing - in fact they should probably do
that - with 3 shifts on duty - they could staff all 3 engines - this
would help on brush fires and earthquakes and nuke bomb attacks
palisades fire - damage map looks 100% done now
https://recovery.lacounty.gov/palisades-fire/
palisades got slammed
original fire neighborhood lost maybe 30% of blds - mostly those
closest to brush
palisades got slammed
original fire neighborhood lost maybe 30% of blds - mostly those
closest to brush
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